<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Wolf</div><div>Please kindly make your concrete amendments in form of revision marks to the vclean doc. that I sent you rather than making comments on the margin</div><div>Regards</div><div>Kavouss </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-09-09 11:20 GMT+02:00 WUKnoben <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Dear Heather,</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">I
attach</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">- the
version presented at the Istanbul meeting</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">- the
version amended by Kavouss based on the discussion after the meeting</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">- my
amendments/comments to this</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">I hope it
helps understanding our status of discussion.<br><br>Best
regards<br><br>Wolf-Ulrich<br><br></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca" href="mailto:Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca" target="_blank">Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 08, 2014 9:53 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>
; <a title="kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="Internal-cg@icann.org" href="mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org" target="_blank">Internal-cg@icann.org</a> </div><div><div class="h5">
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</div></div></div></div></div>
<div> </div></div><div><div class="h5">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none;display:inline"><font style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Thank
you Wolf-Ulrich. Unfortunately, I missed the discussion group that met after the
ICG meetings concluded so I appreciate having a copy of the latest version of
the consensus document and the chance to compare and consider its contents
before finalizing the document on the Sep. 17
call.<br><br>Heather<br></font><br> <br>
<div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><font style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><b>From</b>:
WUKnoben [mailto:<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>] <br><b>Sent</b>: Monday,
September 08, 2014 09:41 PM<br><b>To</b>: Kavouss Arasteh
<<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Cc</b>: Coordination Group
<<a href="mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org" target="_blank">Internal-cg@icann.org</a>> <br><b>Subject</b>: Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus
building discussion <br></font> <br></div>
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<div>All,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>let me first say that the discussion in the after-meeting-session (“G11”)
was helpful for better understanding as well as moving ahead towards an
agreement about the consensus building process. Thanks again to Manal to sum up
the essential points made. And thanks to Kavouss as the G11 coordinator.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>As it deemed to be necessary and for
fairness reasons I’ve made a comparison between the document version which has
been on the table when we cut the discussion last Saturday and the last one
Kavouss has edited.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Please find the result attached. As we
agreed to Patriks proposal to use a significant part of the next call on 17 Sep
to (finally) discuss the process it should be diligently prepared.</div>
<div><br>Best
regards<br><br>Wolf-Ulrich<br></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">Kavouss Arasteh</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 08, 2014 4:42 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank">WUKnoben</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="manal@tra.gov.eg" href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" target="_blank">Manal
Ismail</a> ; <a title="mnuduma@yahoo.com" href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com" target="_blank">Mary
Uduma</a> ; <a title="jari.arkko@piuha.net" href="mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net" target="_blank">Jari Arkko</a> ; <a title="Internal-cg@icann.org" href="mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org" target="_blank">Coordination
Group</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</div></div></div>
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<div>Dear All,</div>
<div>I have considered and to a great extent taken into account all of your
comments</div>
<div>I therefore created a clean version called V1 after 08 Sept.</div>
<div>Please consider this clean version and</div>
<div>1 make any editorial /language improvement</div>
<div>2 make minimum changes as we may not finish if we start again to
redraft.</div>
<div>There is a requirement that first and foremost every body feel comfortable
then at least every body equally uncomfortable .</div>
<div>Kavouss </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-09-08 15:51 GMT+02:00 WUKnoben <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>></span>:<br>
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<div>And thanks to Manal for this very good summary!</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt"><br><br>Best
regards<br><br>Wolf-Ulrich<br><br></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="manal@tra.gov.eg" href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" target="_blank">Manal Ismail</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 07, 2014 1:29 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="mnuduma@yahoo.com" href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com" target="_blank">Mary Uduma</a> ; <a title="jari.arkko@piuha.net" href="mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net" target="_blank">Jari Arkko</a> ; <a title="kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">Kavouss Arasteh</a> </div>
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<div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="internal-cg@icann.org" href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org" target="_blank">ICG</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</div></div></div></div></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Dear
All ..<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">As
one of those who have attended the ‘consensus building’ discussion during the
coffee break after the meeting, allow me to clarify that more than 10 ICG
members joined the discussion and almost everyone agreed
that:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><span>-<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span><span dir="ltr"></span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Utmost
efforts should be exerted to reach consensus ..<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><span>-<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span><span dir="ltr"></span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Not
reaching consensus would weaken the proposal submitted to the
NTIA<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><span>-<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span><span dir="ltr"></span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">A
situation where one person can block the whole process should be
avoided<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><span>-<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span><span dir="ltr"></span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Minority
views, no matter how few, should be evaluated qualitatively (based on the
merit of the objections) not quantitatively (based on the number of
objections) <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><span>-<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span><span dir="ltr"></span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Consensus
here refers to decisions related to the handling and assembling of submitted
proposals not decisions related to approval/disapproval of content of the
proposals (which if needed may then be referred back to the relevant
communities) <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">ICG
members who were present agreed in principle on the proposal suggested by Mr
Arasteh, which basically:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><span>-<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span><span dir="ltr"></span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Stresses
the need for reaching consensus<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><span>-<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span><span dir="ltr"></span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Delete
the controversial minority/quorum part of the text from this
part<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><span>-<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span><span dir="ltr"></span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Defer
decision on how to handle the unlikely situation of not being able to reach a
consensus way forward, to be decided upon on a case by case
basis<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><span>-<span style="font:7pt/normal "Times New Roman";font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span><span dir="ltr"></span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">List
examples of alternative means that ICG may choose to follow .. this includes
the text on minority as well as the IETF document, circulated by Jari, that
describes the rough consensus process, particularly how to deal with different
opinions<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">So
apologies to those who were not in the room and did not have the chance to
attend ..<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Hope
this summary, subject to corrections or additions by other present colleagues,
provides the necessary background to put us all on the same page
..<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Thanks
to Mr Arasteh for the suggested text and to all ICG members who were present
for the constructive exchange ..<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Kind
Regards<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">--Manal
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> <a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mary
Uduma<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 07, 2014 3:21 AM<br><b>To:</b> Jari
Arkko; Kavouss Arasteh<br><b>Cc:</b> ICG<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg]
Consensus building discussion<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">Jari
, Arasteh and All,</span></span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">Kindly
make it easier for us to follow the trend of discussions with correct
documents. I was about to congratulate the Group of 11 (G11) and all ICG
members when Alice's mail came in with the old version of the document. It is
a bit confusing.</span></span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><br><br><u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><u></u><u></u></span> </p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">I
think we have progressed positively with the G11's version and formulations,
please let us not go back to the old version, reason being that ICG members
are errand boys of the communities. The power to object regarding any
part of the proposal to NTIA is with each of the communities.
</span></span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><u></u><u></u></span> </p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">In
addition, the version looks balanced, what is left will be to do the minor
edits and remove some redundant words and paragraphs like:</span></span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><br><br><br><span>1.
Purpose:</span><br><span>" Laison " should read 'Liaison' in the second
paragraph.</span><br><br><span>2. Individual/Group Behavior and
Norms:</span><br><span>Last paragraph 1st sentence should read :
</span><br><span> </span><br></span><span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Public<span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"> comments</span> <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">received</span> <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">as</span> a <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">result</span> of<span style="letter-spacing:0.05pt"> </span>any <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">forum</span> held by the ICG in relation to
it<span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">s activities</span> should be<span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"> duly</span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.15pt"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">considered</span><span style="letter-spacing:0.1pt"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">and</span> <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">carefully</span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.15pt"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">analyzed.</span> </span></span><span style="color:black;letter-spacing:-0.15pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><br></span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><br><br><u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">3. Last para
in 4b after the bullet points should read </span></span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><br><span>''Following
these basic principles, the<span style="letter-spacing:-0.1pt"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">chair</span> will be<span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"> </span>responsible<span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"> for </span></span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(205,35,44);letter-spacing:-0.05pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">designating</span></span><span><span style="color:black;letter-spacing:-0.15pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">
</span></span><span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">each ICG position
<span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">as</span></span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(205,35,44);font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></span><span><span style="color:black;letter-spacing:-0.1pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">
</span></span><span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">one<span style="letter-spacing:0.05pt"> </span>of<span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"> </span>the <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">following;'</span></span></span><span><span style="color:rgb(157,24,17);font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">
</span></span><span style="color:rgb(157,24,17);font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><br><br></span><span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">4. 4b under
Recommendation</span></span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><br><span>......cannot
be reach-.... should read ....cannot be
reached.......</span><br><span>The two paragraphs after the last bullet
point are no longer necessary, they should be deleted.
</span></span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><br><br><br></span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Safe trip
everyone.</span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><br><br>Mary
Uduma<br><br><br><br><br><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:09 AM, Mary Uduma <<a href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mnuduma@yahoo.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">On
Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:07 AM, Mary Uduma <<a href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mnuduma@yahoo.com</a>>
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, Arasteh and All,</span></span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">Kindly
make it easier for us to follow. I was about to congratulate the Group of 11
(G11) and all ICG members when Alice's mail came in with the old
version.</span></span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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think we have progressed positively with the G11's version, please let
us not go back to the old version, reason being that ICG members are errand
boys of the communities. The power to object regarding any part of the
proposal to NTIA is with each communities. </span></span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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addition, the version looks balanced, what is left will be to do the minor
edits and remove some redundant words like:</span></span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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Saturday, September 6, 2014 11:21 PM, Jari Arkko <<a href="mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net" target="_blank">jari.arkko@piuha.net</a>>
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after-the-meeting discussion I promised to send a link to the IETF document
that describes the rough consensus process. Here:<br><br><a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7282" target="_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7282</a><br><br>(for the purposes
of the ICG decision process, the important bit is how we deal with differing
opinions, not the humming. so read it in that
light.)<br><br>Jari<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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