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<DIV>Joe,</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">you’re
right. I’ve seen some of your edits taken by Kavouss in a condensed form but not
all of them.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">Certainly
you should be given the opportunity to comment on this revision again.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000"><BR>Best
regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com
href="mailto:joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com">joseph alhadeff</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=internal-cg@icann.org
href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org">internal-cg@icann.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>Wolf:<BR><BR>I
had added some language on decisions where parties are not present in the
comments I had made to the last round as a reflection of our conversation and
replacement of the concept of quorum.<BR><BR>Joe<BR>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>On 9/9/2014 5:20 AM, WUKnoben wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Dear Heather,</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">I
attach</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">- the
version presented at the Istanbul meeting</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">- the
version amended by Kavouss based on the discussion after the meeting</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">- my
amendments/comments to this</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">I hope it
helps understanding our status of discussion.<BR><BR>Best
regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca
href="mailto:Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca"
moz-do-not-send="true">Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 08, 2014 9:53 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"
moz-do-not-send="true">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</A> ; <A
title=kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=Internal-cg@icann.org
href="mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">Internal-cg@icann.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Thank
you Wolf-Ulrich. Unfortunately, I missed the discussion group that met after
the ICG meetings concluded so I appreciate having a copy of the latest version
of the consensus document and the chance to compare and consider its contents
before finalizing the document on the Sep. 17
call.<BR><BR>Heather<BR></FONT><BR> <BR>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'><B>From</B>:
WUKnoben [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</A>]
<BR><B>Sent</B>: Monday, September 08, 2014 09:41 PM<BR><B>To</B>: Kavouss
Arasteh <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</A>
<BR><B>Cc</B>: Coordination Group <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org">mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org</A>
<BR><B>Subject</B>: Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building discussion
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<DIV>All,</DIV>
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<DIV>let me first say that the discussion in the after-meeting-session (“G11”)
was helpful for better understanding as well as moving ahead towards an
agreement about the consensus building process. Thanks again to Manal to sum
up the essential points made. And thanks to Kavouss as the G11
coordinator.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ">As it deemed to be necessary and for
fairness reasons I’ve made a comparison between the document version which has
been on the table when we cut the discussion last Saturday and the last one
Kavouss has edited.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: "> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ">Please find the result attached. As we
agreed to Patriks proposal to use a significant part of the next call on 17
Sep to (finally) discuss the process it should be diligently prepared.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: "><BR>Best
regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Kavouss
Arasteh</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 08, 2014 4:42 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"
moz-do-not-send="true">WUKnoben</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=manal@tra.gov.eg href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg"
moz-do-not-send="true">Manal Ismail</A> ; <A title=mnuduma@yahoo.com
href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Mary Uduma</A> ; <A
title=jari.arkko@piuha.net href="mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">Jari Arkko</A> ; <A title=Internal-cg@icann.org
href="mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org" moz-do-not-send="true">Coordination
Group</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Dear All,</DIV>
<DIV>I have considered and to a great extent taken into account all of your
comments</DIV>
<DIV>I therefore created a clean version called V1 after 08 Sept.</DIV>
<DIV>Please consider this clean version and</DIV>
<DIV>1 make any editorial /language improvement</DIV>
<DIV>2 make minimum changes as we may not finish if we start again to
redraft.</DIV>
<DIV>There is a requirement that first and foremost every body feel
comfortable then at least every body equally uncomfortable .</DIV>
<DIV>Kavouss </DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>2014-09-08 15:51 GMT+02:00 WUKnoben <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</A>></SPAN>:<BR>
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<DIV>And thanks to Manal for this very good summary!</DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'><BR><BR>Best
regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=manal@tra.gov.eg href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg"
target=_blank moz-do-not-send="true">Manal Ismail</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 07, 2014 1:29 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=mnuduma@yahoo.com href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com"
target=_blank moz-do-not-send="true">Mary Uduma</A> ; <A
title=jari.arkko@piuha.net href="mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">Jari Arkko</A> ; <A title=kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">Kavouss Arasteh</A> </DIV>
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<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=internal-cg@icann.org
href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">ICG</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Dear
All ..</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>As
one of those who have attended the ‘consensus building’ discussion during
the coffee break after the meeting, allow me to clarify that more than 10
ICG members joined the discussion and almost everyone agreed
that:</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New roman"; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Utmost
efforts should be exerted to reach consensus ..</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New roman"; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Not
reaching consensus would weaken the proposal submitted to the
NTIA</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New roman"; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>A
situation where one person can block the whole process should be
avoided</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New roman"; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Minority
views, no matter how few, should be evaluated qualitatively (based on the
merit of the objections) not quantitatively (based on the number of
objections) </SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New roman"; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Consensus
here refers to decisions related to the handling and assembling of submitted
proposals not decisions related to approval/disapproval of content of the
proposals (which if needed may then be referred back to the relevant
communities) </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>ICG
members who were present agreed in principle on the proposal suggested by Mr
Arasteh, which basically:</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New roman"; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Stresses
the need for reaching consensus</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New roman"; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Delete
the controversial minority/quorum part of the text from this part</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New roman"; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Defer
decision on how to handle the unlikely situation of not being able to reach
a consensus way forward, to be decided upon on a case by case
basis</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New roman"; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>List
examples of alternative means that ICG may choose to follow .. this includes
the text on minority as well as the IETF document, circulated by Jari, that
describes the rough consensus process, particularly how to deal with
different opinions</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>So
apologies to those who were not in the room and did not have the chance to
attend ..</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Hope
this summary, subject to corrections or additions by other present
colleagues, provides the necessary background to put us all on the same page
..</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Thanks
to Mr Arasteh for the suggested text and to all ICG members who were present
for the constructive exchange ..</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Kind
Regards</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>--Manal
</SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'></SPAN> </P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <A
href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Mary Uduma<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 07, 2014 3:21
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Jari Arkko; Kavouss Arasteh<BR><B>Cc:</B>
ICG<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Jari
, Arasteh and All,</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Kindly
make it easier for us to follow the trend of discussions with correct
documents. I was about to congratulate the Group of 11 (G11) and all ICG
members when Alice's mail came in with the old version of the document. It
is a bit confusing.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><BR></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>I
think we have progressed positively with the G11's version and formulations,
please let us not go back to the old version, reason being that ICG members
are errand boys of the communities. The power to object regarding any
part of the proposal to NTIA is with each of the communities.
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>In
addition, the version looks balanced, what is left will be to do the minor
edits and remove some redundant words and paragraphs
like:</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><BR><BR><SPAN>1.
Purpose:</SPAN><BR><SPAN>" Laison " should read 'Liaison' in the second
paragraph.</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>2. Individual/Group Behavior and
Norms:</SPAN><BR><SPAN>Last paragraph 1st sentence should read :
</SPAN><BR><SPAN> </SPAN><BR></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Public<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt"> comments</SPAN> <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">received</SPAN> <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">as</SPAN> a <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">result</SPAN> of<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: 0.05pt"> </SPAN>any <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">forum</SPAN> held by the ICG in relation to
it<SPAN style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">s activities</SPAN> should be<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt"> duly</SPAN><SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.15pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">considered</SPAN><SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: 0.1pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">and</SPAN> <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">carefully</SPAN><SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.15pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">analyzed.</SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black; LETTER-SPACING: -0.15pt'><BR></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><BR></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>3. Last para
in 4b after the bullet points should read </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><SPAN>''Following
these basic principles, the<SPAN style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.1pt">
</SPAN><SPAN style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">chair</SPAN> will be<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt"> </SPAN>responsible<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt"> for </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(205,35,44); LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt'>designating</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black; LETTER-SPACING: -0.15pt'>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>each ICG position
<SPAN style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">as</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(205,35,44)'> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black; LETTER-SPACING: -0.1pt'>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>one<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: 0.05pt"> </SPAN>of<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt"> </SPAN>the <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">following;'</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(157,24,17)'>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(157,24,17)'><BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>4. 4b under
Recommendation</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><SPAN>......cannot
be reach-.... should read ....cannot be
reached.......</SPAN><BR><SPAN>The two paragraphs after the last
bullet point are no longer necessary, they should be deleted.
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Safe trip
everyone.</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><BR>Mary
Uduma<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>On
Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:09 AM, Mary Uduma <<A
href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">mnuduma@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica neue"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica neue"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>OOOOsh!!!!</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Sleeping
and typing, hit the wrong botton.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Please
ignore my last unfinished mail.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Mary</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>On
Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:07 AM, Mary Uduma <<A
href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">mnuduma@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica neue"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica neue"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Jari
, Arasteh and All,</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Kindly
make it easier for us to follow. I was about to congratulate the Group of 11
(G11) and all ICG members when Alice's mail came in with the old
version.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>I
think we have progressed positively with the G11's version, please let
us not go back to the old version, reason being that ICG members are errand
boys of the communities. The power to object regarding any part of the
proposal to NTIA is with each communities. </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>In
addition, the version looks balanced, what is left will be to do the minor
edits and remove some redundant words like:</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>On
Saturday, September 6, 2014 11:21 PM, Jari Arkko <<A
href="mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">jari.arkko@piuha.net</A>> wrote:</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica neue"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica neue"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica neue"; COLOR: black'>And
in the after-the-meeting discussion I promised to send a link to the IETF
document that describes the rough consensus process. Here:<BR><BR><A
href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7282" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7282</A><BR><BR>(for
the purposes of the ICG decision process, the important bit is how we deal
with differing opinions, not the humming. so read it in that
light.)<BR><BR>Jari</SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica neue"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P>
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