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<DIV>Dear Kavouss,</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">your
perception of our discussion process simply does not meet it’s intention nor
does it meet it’s performance. I have not seen any ICG member quoting you in the
way you’re describing or accusing you due to any argumentation. We are all
coming up with opinions and arguments which we expect to be taken into
consideration.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">The only
real issue I have problems with is not the content of your arguments but the way
you try to push them through. It looks like imperative postulations as the 10
bullets in your attached email show. Those postulations do not admit
counter-arguments and are not helpful for the discussion.</DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">Myself and
others spend a lot of time to enter upon your specific submissions and
questions. I simply expect from you the same.<BR><BR>Best
regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">Kavouss Arasteh</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:52 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">WUKnoben</A> ; <A
title=joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com href="mailto:joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com">joseph
alhadeff</A> ; <A title=internal-cg@icann.org
href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org">Coordination Group</A> ; <A
title=jari.arkko@piuha.net href="mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net">Jari Arkko</A> ;
<A title=manal@tra.gov.eg href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg">Manal Ismail</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Dear
All,</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Allow
me to share some thoughts with you </SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>First
of all,</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>It
is surprising and astonishing that I was mistakenly and wrongly and unfairly
quoted that to be against consensus</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000
size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>That
is an unfounded, wrong and untrue quotation and/or interpretation of what I have
said or what I am thinking </SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>I
am and have been and I will always be in favour of consensus</SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>That
is a tradition and past and present and future practice.</SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>I
was also mistakenly and wrongly and unfairly quoted to opt for voting
</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>That
is also another unfounded, wrong and untrue quotation and/or
interpretation of what I have said or what I am thinking </SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>These
are pure allegation and hostile positions</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Everybody
who knows me is aware that I am always looking to find a compromise for any
problem</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>I
therefore categorically and strongly reject such an interpretation wrongly made
by media and by those who wish to give a wrong image of me.</SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Now
coming to the second round of consensus building process initiated by me on 06
September after formal ICG meeting in G11 and now circulating within the entire
ICG</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>The
issue is not who is right and who is not right.</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000
size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>The
issue is we have to negotiate and come to agreement or
consensus.</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Please
therefore kindly not refer that X IS RIGHT or Y IS NOT RIGHT</SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Some
of you insisting that their views be accepted by others .That is not consensus
building .That is dominating other’s views .</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000
size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Negotiation
implies that we give something if we wish to get some thing</SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>We
cannot expect that we get everything without giving up some
thing</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>The
case by case approach that I propose is a workable approach since we still do
not know which are <SPAN> </SPAN>the subjects that we may agree or disagree
.In one case we could have option x of arriving at consensus and in other case
may be option Y to do so.</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Let
us avoid establishing rules upfront before dealing with an
issue.</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>ICG
does not merely deal with technical issues such as those being dealt with by
some operational communities as other operational communities have had different
mechanism to achieve consensus</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Consequently,:</SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>1.
be ready to be negotiable, and tolerable </SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>2.
agree to the case by case concept</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>3.
agree to limit the inclusion of one possible example as already included and not
give another example rather take approach of some of you proposing that chair
and vice chairs shall make their utmost efforts to explore way and means in
finding appropriate mechanism to achieve consensus or to reach consensus ,on a
case by case</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>4.
agree not to refer to quorum</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>5.agree
not to refer to simple minority</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>6.agree
not to refer to rough or soft consensus</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>7.agree
to refer to the possibility of absentees ICG members to make comments
<SPAN> </SPAN>when other ICG considering an issue for decision making
</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>8.agree
that chair ,in consultation with vice chair opt for some sort of temperature
measuring process to find out the sense and9or direction or trend of the
ICG mood in discussing issues</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>9.agree
that if the essence of your view points is taken not insisting for the full text
that you have proposed.</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>10.
maintain and practice the spirit of collaboration and cooperation and be ready
to negotiate and join consensus</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
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style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>TKS</SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>KAVOUSS
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style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'></SPAN> </P><FONT
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>2014-09-09 19:56 GMT+02:00 Kavouss Arasteh <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</A>></SPAN>:<BR>
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<DIV>Dear Wolf</DIV>
<DIV>Dear Joe</DIV>
<DIV>Dear all,</DIV>
<DIV>Please be fair with me.</DIV>
<DIV>I have taken the essence and thrust of Joe, s proposal relating to
absentees of members at ICG meeting in two circumstances as he described and I
took his proposal relating yo exploring all other possible options than the
one I put in the draft</DIV><SPAN>
<DIV>Kavouss <BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On 9 Sep 2014, at 17:17, "WUKnoben" <<A
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"
target=_blank>wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV></SPAN>
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<DIV>Joe,</DIV>
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<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>you’re
right. I’ve seen some of your edits taken by Kavouss in a condensed form but
not all of them.</DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>Certainly
you should be given the opportunity to comment on this revision again.</DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'><BR>Best
regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(245,245,245)">
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com
href="mailto:joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com" target=_blank>joseph alhadeff</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=internal-cg@icann.org
href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org" target=_blank>internal-cg@icann.org</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>Wolf:<BR><BR>I
had added some language on decisions where parties are not present in the
comments I had made to the last round as a reflection of our conversation
and replacement of the concept of quorum.<BR><BR>Joe<BR>
<DIV>On 9/9/2014 5:20 AM, WUKnoben wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Dear Heather,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>I
attach</DIV>
<DIV style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>-
the version presented at the Istanbul meeting</DIV>
<DIV style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>-
the version amended by Kavouss based on the discussion after the
meeting</DIV>
<DIV style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>-
my amendments/comments to this</DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'> </DIV>
<DIV style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>I
hope it helps understanding our status of discussion.<BR><BR>Best
regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR><BR></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt tahoma; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(245,245,245)">
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca
href="mailto:Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca"
target=_blank>Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 08, 2014 9:53 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"
target=_blank>wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</A> ; <A
title=kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=Internal-cg@icann.org
href="mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org"
target=_blank>Internal-cg@icann.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'><FONT
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Thank
you Wolf-Ulrich. Unfortunately, I missed the discussion group that met
after the ICG meetings concluded so I appreciate having a copy of the
latest version of the consensus document and the chance to compare and
consider its contents before finalizing the document on the Sep. 17
call.<BR><BR>Heather<BR></FONT><BR> <BR>
<DIV
style="BORDER-TOP: rgb(181,196,223) 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in"><FONT
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'><B>From</B>:
WUKnoben [<A href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"
target=_blank>mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</A>] <BR><B>Sent</B>:
Monday, September 08, 2014 09:41 PM<BR><B>To</B>: Kavouss Arasteh <A
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</A> <BR><B>Cc</B>:
Coordination Group <A href="mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org"
target=_blank>mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org</A> <BR><B>Subject</B>: Re:
[Internal-cg] Consensus building discussion <BR></FONT> <BR></DIV>
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<DIV style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>
<DIV>All,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>let me first say that the discussion in the after-meeting-session
(“G11”) was helpful for better understanding as well as moving ahead
towards an agreement about the consensus building process. Thanks again to
Manal to sum up the essential points made. And thanks to Kavouss as the
G11 coordinator.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As it deemed to be necessary and for fairness reasons I’ve made a
comparison between the document version which has been on the table when
we cut the discussion last Saturday and the last one Kavouss has
edited.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Please find the result attached. As we agreed to Patriks proposal to
use a significant part of the next call on 17 Sep to (finally) discuss the
process it should be diligently prepared.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Best regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'> </DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>
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style="FONT: 10pt tahoma; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(245,245,245)">
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target=_blank>Kavouss Arasteh</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 08, 2014 4:42 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target=_blank>WUKnoben</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=manal@tra.gov.eg href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg"
target=_blank>Manal Ismail</A> ; <A title=mnuduma@yahoo.com
href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com" target=_blank>Mary Uduma</A> ; <A
title=jari.arkko@piuha.net href="mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net"
target=_blank>Jari Arkko</A> ; <A title=Internal-cg@icann.org
href="mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org" target=_blank>Coordination Group</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV dir=ltr>
<DIV>Dear All,</DIV>
<DIV>I have considered and to a great extent taken into account all of
your comments</DIV>
<DIV>I therefore created a clean version called V1 after 08 Sept.</DIV>
<DIV>Please consider this clean version and</DIV>
<DIV>1 make any editorial /language improvement</DIV>
<DIV>2 make minimum changes as we may not finish if we start again to
redraft.</DIV>
<DIV>There is a requirement that first and foremost every body feel
comfortable then at least every body equally uncomfortable .</DIV>
<DIV>Kavouss </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_extra>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>2014-09-08 15:51 GMT+02:00 WUKnoben <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"
target=_blank>wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</A>></SPAN>:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
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<DIV style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>
<DIV>And thanks to Manal for this very good summary!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'><BR><BR>Best
regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR><BR></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt tahoma; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(245,245,245)">
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=manal@tra.gov.eg
href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" target=_blank>Manal Ismail</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 07, 2014 1:29 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=mnuduma@yahoo.com
href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com" target=_blank>Mary Uduma</A> ; <A
title=jari.arkko@piuha.net href="mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net"
target=_blank>Jari Arkko</A> ; <A title=kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target=_blank>Kavouss
Arasteh</A> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=internal-cg@icann.org
href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org" target=_blank>ICG</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>
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<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Dear
All ..</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>As
one of those who have attended the ‘consensus building’ discussion
during the coffee break after the meeting, allow me to clarify that more
than 10 ICG members joined the discussion and almost everyone agreed
that:</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Utmost
efforts should be exerted to reach consensus ..</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Not
reaching consensus would weaken the proposal submitted to the
NTIA</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>A
situation where one person can block the whole process should be
avoided</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Minority
views, no matter how few, should be evaluated qualitatively (based on
the merit of the objections) not quantitatively (based on the number of
objections) </SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Consensus
here refers to decisions related to the handling and assembling of
submitted proposals not decisions related to approval/disapproval of
content of the proposals (which if needed may then be referred back to
the relevant communities) </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>ICG
members who were present agreed in principle on the proposal suggested
by Mr Arasteh, which basically:</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Stresses
the need for reaching consensus</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Delete
the controversial minority/quorum part of the text from this
part</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Defer
decision on how to handle the unlikely situation of not being able to
reach a consensus way forward, to be decided upon on a case by case
basis</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>List
examples of alternative means that ICG may choose to follow .. this
includes the text on minority as well as the IETF document, circulated
by Jari, that describes the rough consensus process, particularly how to
deal with different opinions</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>So
apologies to those who were not in the room and did not have the chance
to attend ..</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Hope
this summary, subject to corrections or additions by other present
colleagues, provides the necessary background to put us all on the same
page ..</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Thanks
to Mr Arasteh for the suggested text and to all ICG members who were
present for the constructive exchange ..</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Kind
Regards</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>--Manal
</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'></SPAN> </P>
<DIV>
<DIV
style="BORDER-TOP: rgb(181,196,223) 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in">
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <A
href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org"
target=_blank>internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org"
target=_blank>internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Mary Uduma<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 07, 2014 3:21
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Jari Arkko; Kavouss Arasteh<BR><B>Cc:</B>
ICG<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Jari
, Arasteh and All,</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Kindly
make it easier for us to follow the trend of discussions with correct
documents. I was about to congratulate the Group of 11 (G11) and all ICG
members when Alice's mail came in with the old version of the document.
It is a bit confusing.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><BR></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>I
think we have progressed positively with the G11's version and
formulations, please let us not go back to the old version, reason being
that ICG members are errand boys of the communities. The power to object
regarding any part of the proposal to NTIA is with each of the
communities. </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>In
addition, the version looks balanced, what is left will be to do the
minor edits and remove some redundant words and paragraphs
like:</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><BR><BR><SPAN>1.
Purpose:</SPAN><BR><SPAN>" Laison " should read 'Liaison' in the second
paragraph.</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>2. Individual/Group Behavior and
Norms:</SPAN><BR><SPAN>Last paragraph 1st sentence should read :
</SPAN><BR><SPAN> </SPAN><BR></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Public<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt"> comments</SPAN> <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">received</SPAN> <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">as</SPAN> a <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">result</SPAN> of<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: 0.05pt"> </SPAN>any <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">forum</SPAN> held by the ICG in relation
to it<SPAN style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">s activities</SPAN> should
be<SPAN style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt"> duly</SPAN><SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.15pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">considered</SPAN><SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: 0.1pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">and</SPAN> <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">carefully</SPAN><SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.15pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">analyzed.</SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black; LETTER-SPACING: -0.15pt'><BR></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><BR></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>3. Last
para in 4b after the bullet points should read </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><SPAN>''Following
these basic principles, the<SPAN style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.1pt">
</SPAN><SPAN style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">chair</SPAN> will be<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt"> </SPAN>responsible<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt"> for </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(205,35,44); LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt'>designating</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black; LETTER-SPACING: -0.15pt'>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>each ICG
position <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">as</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(205,35,44)'> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black; LETTER-SPACING: -0.1pt'>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>one<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: 0.05pt"> </SPAN>of<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt"> </SPAN>the <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">following;'</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(157,24,17)'>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(157,24,17)'><BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>4. 4b under
Recommendation</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><SPAN>......cannot
be reach-.... should read ....cannot be
reached.......</SPAN><BR><SPAN>The two paragraphs after the last
bullet point are no longer necessary, they should be deleted.
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Safe trip
everyone.</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><BR>Mary
Uduma<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>On
Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:09 AM, Mary Uduma <<A
href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com" target=_blank>mnuduma@yahoo.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN></SPAN> </P>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>OOOOsh!!!!</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Sleeping
and typing, hit the wrong botton.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Please
ignore my last unfinished mail.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Mary</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>On
Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:07 AM, Mary Uduma <<A
href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com" target=_blank>mnuduma@yahoo.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN></SPAN> </P>
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make it easier for us to follow. I was about to congratulate the Group
of 11 (G11) and all ICG members when Alice's mail came in with the old
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think we have progressed positively with the G11's version, please
let us not go back to the old version, reason being that ICG members are
errand boys of the communities. The power to object regarding any
part of the proposal to NTIA is with each communities.
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addition, the version looks balanced, what is left will be to do the
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Saturday, September 6, 2014 11:21 PM, Jari Arkko <<A
href="mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net"
target=_blank>jari.arkko@piuha.net</A>>
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after-the-meeting discussion I promised to send a link to the IETF
document that describes the rough consensus process. Here:<BR><BR><A
href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7282"
target=_blank>http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7282</A><BR><BR>(for the
purposes of the ICG decision process, the important bit is how we deal
with differing opinions, not the humming. so read it in that
light.)<BR><BR>Jari</SPAN></P>
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