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<DIV>Dear all,</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">attached
please find my remaining amendments with the following explanations regarding
some of them:</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">4.a. last
paragraph: I’ve inserted “<A
style="mso-comment-reference: w_1; mso-comment-date: 20140910t2122"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; LINE-HEIGHT: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: calibri; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: en-us; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold"><FONT
face="Times New Roman">The selection is done by a majority
vote.</FONT></SPAN></A>”</DIV>
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style="name: _msocom_1"></A></SPAN>
<P class=MsoCommentText style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt"><SPAN
class=MsoCommentReference><SPAN lang=FR-BE style="LINE-HEIGHT: 9pt"><SPAN
style="mso-special-character: comment">Rationale: The para talks about “...run
a vote...”. The succeeding voting threshold must be
clear.</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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class=MsoCommentReference><SPAN lang=FR-BE style="LINE-HEIGHT: 9pt"><SPAN
style="mso-special-character: comment">4.b. first paragraph: grammatical
edits</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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class=MsoCommentReference><SPAN lang=FR-BE style="LINE-HEIGHT: 9pt"><SPAN
style="mso-special-character: comment">4.b. insertion of an additional bullet
point re principles (Manal) which I
support</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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class=MsoCommentReference><SPAN lang=FR-BE style="LINE-HEIGHT: 9pt"><SPAN
style="mso-special-character: comment">4.c.iii. re-insertion of
“serious”</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></LI></UL>
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Rationale: <SPAN lang=FR-BE
style='FONT-FAMILY: ; LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; mso-fareast-font-family: calibri; mso-ansi-language: fr-be; mso-fareast-language: en-us; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"'>Opportunity
should not be given for <U>all</U> kinds of objection since the issue should
have been discussed extensively in advance to the designation. The remaining
objection should then be characterized as « serious
».</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoCommentText style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt"><SPAN
class=MsoCommentReference><SPAN lang=FR-BE style="LINE-HEIGHT: 9pt"><SPAN
style="mso-special-character: comment"><SPAN lang=FR-BE
style='FONT-FAMILY: ; LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; mso-fareast-font-family: calibri; mso-ansi-language: fr-be; mso-fareast-language: en-us; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"'>I
would in particular be interested in the chair’s/VCs’ opinion regarding the case
by case approach since they may want to facilitate the
process.</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><BR><BR>Best
regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR><BR></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">Kavouss Arasteh</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 10, 2014 7:14 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">WUKnoben</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com
href="mailto:joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com">joseph alhadeff</A> ; <A
title=internal-cg@icann.org href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org">Coordination
Group</A> ; <A title=jari.arkko@piuha.net
href="mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net">Jari Arkko</A> ; <A title=manal@tra.gov.eg
href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg">Manal Ismail</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building discussion</DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)"><FONT
face=Calibri><BR></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)"><FONT face=Calibri>Dear
Wolf, Joseph ,Jari,Manal,other members of G11</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)"><FONT face=Calibri>Dear
All ICG Members ,</FONT></SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)"><FONT face=Calibri>I
wish to refer to the draft that I sent to you on 08 September, taking into
account views from Joseph and other relating to absentee’s comments
emphasizing that chair and vice chairs should identify other possible mechanism
apart from the one mentioned in that draft</FONT></SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)"><FONT face=Calibri>May
I request you to kindly provide your comments in form of revision marks in the
text and supporting arguments, if you so wish in the covering
message.,</FONT></SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)"><FONT face=Calibri>We
need to finalize this text as soon as possible</FONT></SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)"><FONT face=Calibri>Once
gain reference to Quorum and reference to Quantitative Majority or Minority have
been deleted and the focus is made on consensus building with the utmost
efforts</FONT></SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)"><FONT face=Calibri>If
not we should continue negotiations with a view to arrive at
consensus.</FONT></SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)"><FONT
face=Calibri>However, if all efforts were /are exhausted, chair and vice chairs
together with any other interested party/ties should explore all
possible ways and means to identify an appropriate mechanism for a satisfactory
resolution of the matter toward consensus .</FONT></SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000
size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)"><FONT face=Calibri>One
example and just one example to consider an sissue approved by
consensus is provided .Other examples could equally be valid, according to the
case under consideration,</FONT></SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)"><FONT face=Calibri>(
case by case concept)</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)"><FONT
face=Calibri>Waiting for your kind reply, I remain.</FONT></SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
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style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 6.75pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)"><FONT
face=Calibri>Regards </FONT></SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>2014-09-09 23:07 GMT+02:00 Kavouss Arasteh <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</A>></SPAN>:<BR>
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<DIV>Dear Wolf</DIV>
<DIV>I do my best but in any case I am not pushing for any thing</DIV>
<DIV>I expect good will and spirit of collaboartion from every one of
us.</DIV>
<DIV>The 10 points is the results of the discussion we are facing with.</DIV>
<DIV>Evey one pushes for its own.</DIV>
<DIV>I am not pushing for any thing but I am not COMFORTABLE with those who
wish that their ideas get into the draft word by word and coma by coma</DIV>
<DIV>You said quote</DIV>
<DIV>*We are all coming up with opinions and arguments which we expect to be
taken into consideration"</DIV>
<DIV>Unqoute</DIV>
<DIV>YES we need to take all view into consideration but we may not able to
take all them into account since some of the views expressed conflict with
other views</DIV>
<DIV>Then we need to negotiate and negotiation has two sides giving and
getting.</DIV>
<DIV>I did not refer to any ICG commentimng on my views but I read the media
quoting some thing from me which I never said that .</DIV>
<DIV>Please carefully read my text which referred to MEDIA AND NOT ICG.
Perhaps I was not clear on that.</DIV>
<DIV>Now you are kindly requested to submit your views on the initial darft
with revision marks knowing that we all need to be collaborative and
mindful.</DIV>
<DIV>Regards</DIV><SPAN class=HOEnZb><FONT color=#888888>
<DIV>Kavouss .</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>2014-09-09 22:56 GMT+02:00 WUKnoben <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"
target=_blank>wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</A>></SPAN>:<BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
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<DIV>Dear Kavouss,</DIV>
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<DIV style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>your
perception of our discussion process simply does not meet it’s intention nor
does it meet it’s performance. I have not seen any ICG member quoting you in
the way you’re describing or accusing you due to any argumentation. We are
all coming up with opinions and arguments which we expect to be taken into
consideration.</DIV>
<DIV style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>The
only real issue I have problems with is not the content of your arguments
but the way you try to push them through. It looks like imperative
postulations as the 10 bullets in your attached email show. Those
postulations do not admit counter-arguments and are not helpful for the
discussion.</DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'> </DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>Myself
and others spend a lot of time to enter upon your specific submissions and
questions. I simply expect from you the same.<BR><BR>Best
regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(245,245,245)">
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target=_blank>Kavouss Arasteh</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:52 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target=_blank>WUKnoben</A> ; <A
title=joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com href="mailto:joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com"
target=_blank>joseph alhadeff</A> ; <A title=internal-cg@icann.org
href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org" target=_blank>Coordination Group</A> ;
<A title=jari.arkko@piuha.net href="mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net"
target=_blank>Jari Arkko</A> ; <A title=manal@tra.gov.eg
href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" target=_blank>Manal Ismail</A> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Dear
All,</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Allow
me to share some thoughts with you </SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000
size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>First
of all,</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>It
is surprising and astonishing that I was mistakenly and wrongly and unfairly
quoted that to be against consensus</SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>That
is an unfounded, wrong and untrue quotation and/or interpretation of what I
have said or what I am thinking </SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>I
am and have been and I will always be in favour of consensus</SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>That
is a tradition and past and present and future practice.</SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>I
was also mistakenly and wrongly and unfairly quoted to opt for voting
</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>That
is also another unfounded, wrong and untrue quotation and/or
interpretation of what I have said or what I am thinking </SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>These
are pure allegation and hostile positions</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000
size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Everybody
who knows me is aware that I am always looking to find a compromise for any
problem</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>I
therefore categorically and strongly reject such an interpretation wrongly
made by media and by those who wish to give a wrong image of
me.</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Now
coming to the second round of consensus building process initiated by me on
06 September after formal ICG meeting in G11 and now circulating within the
entire ICG</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>The
issue is not who is right and who is not right.</SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>The
issue is we have to negotiate and come to agreement or
consensus.</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Please
therefore kindly not refer that X IS RIGHT or Y IS NOT RIGHT</SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Some
of you insisting that their views be accepted by others .That is not
consensus building .That is dominating other’s views .</SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Negotiation
implies that we give something if we wish to get some thing</SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>We
cannot expect that we get everything without giving up some
thing</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>The
case by case approach that I propose is a workable approach since we still
do not know which are <SPAN> </SPAN>the subjects that we may agree or
disagree .In one case we could have option x of arriving at consensus and in
other case may be option Y to do so.</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Let
us avoid establishing rules upfront before dealing with an
issue.</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>ICG
does not merely deal with technical issues such as those being dealt with by
some operational communities as other operational communities have had
different mechanism to achieve consensus</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000
size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>Consequently,:</SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>1.
be ready to be negotiable, and tolerable </SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000
size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>2.
agree to the case by case concept</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>3.
agree to limit the inclusion of one possible example as already included and
not give another example rather take approach of some of you proposing that
chair and vice chairs shall make their utmost efforts to explore way and
means in finding appropriate mechanism to achieve consensus or to reach
consensus ,on a case by case</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>4.
agree not to refer to quorum</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>5.agree
not to refer to simple minority</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>6.agree
not to refer to rough or soft consensus</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>7.agree
to refer to the possibility of absentees ICG members to make comments
<SPAN> </SPAN>when other ICG considering an issue for decision making
</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>8.agree
that chair ,in consultation with vice chair opt for some sort of temperature
measuring process to find out the sense and9or direction or trend of
the ICG mood in discussing issues</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>9.agree
that if the essence of your view points is taken not insisting for the full
text that you have proposed.</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>10.
maintain and practice the spirit of collaboration and cooperation and be
ready to negotiate and join consensus</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3
face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>TKS</SPAN></P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'>KAVOUSS
</SPAN></P><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT>
<P
style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 6.75pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)'></SPAN> </P><FONT
color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman"></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_extra>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>2014-09-09 19:56 GMT+02:00 Kavouss Arasteh <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</A>></SPAN>:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<DIV>
<DIV>Dear Wolf</DIV>
<DIV>Dear Joe</DIV>
<DIV>Dear all,</DIV>
<DIV>Please be fair with me.</DIV>
<DIV>I have taken the essence and thrust of Joe, s proposal relating to
absentees of members at ICG meeting in two circumstances as he described
and I took his proposal relating yo exploring all other possible options
than the one I put in the draft</DIV><SPAN>
<DIV>Kavouss <BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On 9 Sep 2014, at 17:17, "WUKnoben" <<A
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"
target=_blank>wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV></SPAN>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>
<DIV style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>
<DIV>Joe,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>you’re
right. I’ve seen some of your edits taken by Kavouss in a condensed form
but not all of them.</DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>Certainly
you should be given the opportunity to comment on this revision
again.</DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'><BR>Best
regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR></DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt tahoma; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(245,245,245)">
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com
href="mailto:joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com" target=_blank>joseph
alhadeff</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=internal-cg@icann.org
href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org"
target=_blank>internal-cg@icann.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>Wolf:<BR><BR>I
had added some language on decisions where parties are not present in
the comments I had made to the last round as a reflection of our
conversation and replacement of the concept of quorum.<BR><BR>Joe<BR>
<DIV>On 9/9/2014 5:20 AM, WUKnoben wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<DIV dir=ltr>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>
<DIV>Dear Heather,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>I
attach</DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>-
the version presented at the Istanbul meeting</DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>-
the version amended by Kavouss based on the discussion after the
meeting</DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>-
my amendments/comments to this</DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'> </DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>I
hope it helps understanding our status of discussion.<BR><BR>Best
regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt tahoma; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(245,245,245)">
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca
href="mailto:Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca"
target=_blank>Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 08, 2014 9:53 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"
target=_blank>wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</A> ; <A
title=kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=Internal-cg@icann.org
href="mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org"
target=_blank>Internal-cg@icann.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'><FONT
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Thank
you Wolf-Ulrich. Unfortunately, I missed the discussion group that met
after the ICG meetings concluded so I appreciate having a copy of the
latest version of the consensus document and the chance to compare and
consider its contents before finalizing the document on the Sep. 17
call.<BR><BR>Heather<BR></FONT><BR> <BR>
<DIV
style="BORDER-TOP: rgb(181,196,223) 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in"><FONT
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'><B>From</B>:
WUKnoben [<A href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"
target=_blank>mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</A>]
<BR><B>Sent</B>: Monday, September 08, 2014 09:41 PM<BR><B>To</B>:
Kavouss Arasteh <A href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</A> <BR><B>Cc</B>:
Coordination Group <A href="mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org"
target=_blank>mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org</A> <BR><B>Subject</B>: Re:
[Internal-cg] Consensus building discussion
<BR></FONT> <BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>
<DIV>All,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>let me first say that the discussion in the after-meeting-session
(“G11”) was helpful for better understanding as well as moving ahead
towards an agreement about the consensus building process. Thanks
again to Manal to sum up the essential points made. And thanks to
Kavouss as the G11 coordinator.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As it deemed to be necessary and for fairness reasons I’ve made a
comparison between the document version which has been on the table
when we cut the discussion last Saturday and the last one Kavouss has
edited.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Please find the result attached. As we agreed to Patriks proposal
to use a significant part of the next call on 17 Sep to (finally)
discuss the process it should be diligently prepared.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Best regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR></DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'> </DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt tahoma; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(245,245,245)">
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target=_blank>Kavouss
Arasteh</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 08, 2014 4:42 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"
target=_blank>WUKnoben</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=manal@tra.gov.eg
href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" target=_blank>Manal Ismail</A> ; <A
title=mnuduma@yahoo.com href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com"
target=_blank>Mary Uduma</A> ; <A title=jari.arkko@piuha.net
href="mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net" target=_blank>Jari Arkko</A> ; <A
title=Internal-cg@icann.org href="mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org"
target=_blank>Coordination Group</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV dir=ltr>
<DIV>Dear All,</DIV>
<DIV>I have considered and to a great extent taken into account all of
your comments</DIV>
<DIV>I therefore created a clean version called V1 after 08
Sept.</DIV>
<DIV>Please consider this clean version and</DIV>
<DIV>1 make any editorial /language improvement</DIV>
<DIV>2 make minimum changes as we may not finish if we start again to
redraft.</DIV>
<DIV>There is a requirement that first and foremost every body feel
comfortable then at least every body equally uncomfortable .</DIV>
<DIV>Kavouss </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_extra>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>2014-09-08 15:51 GMT+02:00 WUKnoben <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"
target=_blank>wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</A>></SPAN>:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<DIV lang=EN-US dir=ltr vlink="purple" link="blue">
<DIV dir=ltr>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'>
<DIV>And thanks to Manal for this very good summary!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)'><BR><BR>Best
regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt tahoma; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(245,245,245)">
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=manal@tra.gov.eg
href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" target=_blank>Manal Ismail</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 07, 2014 1:29 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=mnuduma@yahoo.com
href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com" target=_blank>Mary Uduma</A> ; <A
title=jari.arkko@piuha.net href="mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net"
target=_blank>Jari Arkko</A> ; <A title=kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target=_blank>Kavouss
Arasteh</A> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=internal-cg@icann.org
href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org" target=_blank>ICG</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Dear
All ..</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>As
one of those who have attended the ‘consensus building’ discussion
during the coffee break after the meeting, allow me to clarify that
more than 10 ICG members joined the discussion and almost everyone
agreed that:</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Utmost
efforts should be exerted to reach consensus ..</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Not
reaching consensus would weaken the proposal submitted to the
NTIA</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>A
situation where one person can block the whole process should be
avoided</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Minority
views, no matter how few, should be evaluated qualitatively (based
on the merit of the objections) not quantitatively (based on the
number of objections) </SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Consensus
here refers to decisions related to the handling and assembling of
submitted proposals not decisions related to approval/disapproval of
content of the proposals (which if needed may then be referred back
to the relevant communities) </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>ICG
members who were present agreed in principle on the proposal
suggested by Mr Arasteh, which basically:</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Stresses
the need for reaching consensus</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Delete
the controversial minority/quorum part of the text from this
part</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Defer
decision on how to handle the unlikely situation of not being able
to reach a consensus way forward, to be decided upon on a case by
case basis</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'><SPAN>-<SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>List
examples of alternative means that ICG may choose to follow .. this
includes the text on minority as well as the IETF document,
circulated by Jari, that describes the rough consensus process,
particularly how to deal with different opinions</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>So
apologies to those who were not in the room and did not have the
chance to attend ..</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Hope
this summary, subject to corrections or additions by other present
colleagues, provides the necessary background to put us all on the
same page ..</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Thanks
to Mr Arasteh for the suggested text and to all ICG members who were
present for the constructive exchange ..</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>Kind
Regards</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'>--Manal
</SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)'></SPAN> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <A
href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org"
target=_blank>internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org"
target=_blank>internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Mary Uduma<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 07, 2014 3:21
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Jari Arkko; Kavouss Arasteh<BR><B>Cc:</B>
ICG<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Jari
, Arasteh and All,</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Kindly
make it easier for us to follow the trend of discussions with
correct documents. I was about to congratulate the Group of 11 (G11)
and all ICG members when Alice's mail came in with the old version
of the document. It is a bit confusing.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><BR></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>I
think we have progressed positively with the G11's version and
formulations, please let us not go back to the old version, reason
being that ICG members are errand boys of the communities. The power
to object regarding any part of the proposal to NTIA is with
each of the communities. </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>In
addition, the version looks balanced, what is left will be to do the
minor edits and remove some redundant words and paragraphs
like:</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><BR><BR><SPAN>1.
Purpose:</SPAN><BR><SPAN>" Laison " should read 'Liaison' in the
second paragraph.</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>2. Individual/Group
Behavior and Norms:</SPAN><BR><SPAN>Last paragraph 1st sentence
should read : </SPAN><BR><SPAN> </SPAN><BR></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Public<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt"> comments</SPAN> <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">received</SPAN> <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">as</SPAN> a <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">result</SPAN> of<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: 0.05pt"> </SPAN>any <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">forum</SPAN> held by the ICG in
relation to it<SPAN style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">s
activities</SPAN> should be<SPAN style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">
duly</SPAN><SPAN style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.15pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">considered</SPAN><SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: 0.1pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">and</SPAN> <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">carefully</SPAN><SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.15pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">analyzed.</SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black; LETTER-SPACING: -0.15pt'><BR></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><BR></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>3.
Last para in 4b after the bullet points should read
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><SPAN>''Following
these basic principles, the<SPAN style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.1pt">
</SPAN><SPAN style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">chair</SPAN> will
be<SPAN style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt"> </SPAN>responsible<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt"> for
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(205,35,44); LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt'>designating</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black; LETTER-SPACING: -0.15pt'>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>each ICG
position <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">as</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(205,35,44)'> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black; LETTER-SPACING: -0.1pt'>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>one<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: 0.05pt"> </SPAN>of<SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt"> </SPAN>the <SPAN
style="LETTER-SPACING: -0.05pt">following;'</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(157,24,17)'>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: rgb(157,24,17)'><BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>4. 4b
under Recommendation</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><SPAN>......cannot
be reach-.... should read ....cannot be
reached.......</SPAN><BR><SPAN>The two paragraphs after the
last bullet point are no longer necessary, they should be
deleted. </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Safe trip
everyone.</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR><BR>Mary
Uduma<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>On
Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:09 AM, Mary Uduma <<A
href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com"
target=_blank>mnuduma@yahoo.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN></SPAN> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>OOOOsh!!!!</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Sleeping
and typing, hit the wrong botton.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Please
ignore my last unfinished mail.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Mary</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>On
Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:07 AM, Mary Uduma <<A
href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com"
target=_blank>mnuduma@yahoo.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN></SPAN> </P>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Jari
, Arasteh and All,</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Kindly
make it easier for us to follow. I was about to congratulate the
Group of 11 (G11) and all ICG members when Alice's mail came in with
the old version.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>I
think we have progressed positively with the G11's version,
please let us not go back to the old version, reason being that ICG
members are errand boys of the communities. The power to object
regarding any part of the proposal to NTIA is with each
communities. </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>In
addition, the version looks balanced, what is left will be to do the
minor edits and remove some redundant words like:</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Verdana","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>On
Saturday, September 6, 2014 11:21 PM, Jari Arkko <<A
href="mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net"
target=_blank>jari.arkko@piuha.net</A>>
wrote:</SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN></SPAN> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN>And in the
after-the-meeting discussion I promised to send a link to the IETF
document that describes the rough consensus process. Here:<BR><BR><A
href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7282"
target=_blank>http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7282</A><BR><BR>(for the
purposes of the ICG decision process, the important bit is how we
deal with differing opinions, not the humming. so read it in that
light.)<BR><BR>Jari</SPAN></P>
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