<div dir="ltr"><div>Martin</div><div>Thank you again</div><div> <br></div><div>As per yr statement</div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">" Sorry, I won’t have the time to do this before Sunday or Monday. And it might be as well to give 24 hours in case there are any more views before posting again." </span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Comment</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I agree .However, we need to have something either late Sunday or Monday to be prepared for 17</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">The ball is .In your Camp</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">As per your statement</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">" <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I did explain why used examples. However, I do not agree that we quote examples – whether in a footnote or in the text."<br><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Comment</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I understand there is some reluctence to include an example even as a footnote,However, be kindly informed that my agreement to join you and Alissa is conditioned that the example mentioned in your message is a valid example which may be a case which could occur.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">As per yr statement</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">"<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">As I read Alissa’s input, I think she is as concerned about ensuring consensus as I am – in fact I find I am very much in line with her views. Perhaps you might read her input again.<u></u><u></u></span> "</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I do not really understand refernce to agreemnet or otherwise of Alissa, We are all equal without any superiority or inferioirity. I maintain my positiomn as mentioned in my previos messages.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">If you referred to Alissa to be infavoutr iof consensus, I am also </span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">infavour of consensus perhaps more than anyone else .Consensus is at the top of my mind .If you referred to something else please either explain or let Alissa explain as still I do not understand the refernce to Alissa's statemnt</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Regards</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Kavouss </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u><br></u></span></p></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-09-12 20:48 GMT+02:00 Martin Boyle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Martin.Boyle@nominet.org.uk" target="_blank">Martin.Boyle@nominet.org.uk</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Dear Kavouss,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Sorry, I won’t have the time to do this before Sunday or Monday. And it might be as well to give 24 hours in case there are any more views before posting again.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I did explain why used examples. However, I do not agree that we quote examples – whether in a footnote or in the text.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">As I read Alissa’s input, I think she is as concerned about ensuring consensus as I am – in fact I find I am very much in line with her views. Perhaps you
might read her input again.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">MB<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 12 September 2014 19:22</span><div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>To:</b> Martin Boyle<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alissa Cooper; Coordination Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building discussion<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Martin<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you again<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Your explanation was helpful as usual<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are more or less on the same wavelength .<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As for refernce to Case by Case approach or concept,I prefer the first option that you proposed i.e, para <span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">4.b. 1<sup>st</sup> bullet, to be re-written ( by you) as “…and not
decisions related to approval/rejection of content of the proposals( emphasis to be made whether we mean proposal received from various communities, or proposal to be sent to NTIA ). The approach to making the final decision where there is no consensus
needs to be handled on a case by case basis.”PLS ADD the following </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">WITH A VIEW TO REACH CONSENSUS </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I wish to point out and even emphasize that I AM FULLY IN FAVOUR OF REACHING CONSENSUS BY ALL MEANS EVEN IF WE MAY BE PUSHED TO REEXAMINE THE CASE USING DIFFERENT APPROACH/MECHANISM
....( Alissa may not agree but we should do our utmost effort to be united in reaching consensus.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I also request you to kindly include your example that I have quoted from your your message ( GAC or ALAC + ICC BASIS) in a footnote to * small minority *.that further clarify
the matter and provide me an assurance that we all understand what we mean by significan or samall miniriy
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Please kindly amend your text and send me a copy of the clean text in word format </span> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kavouss <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2014-09-12 19:03 GMT+02:00 Martin Boyle <<a href="mailto:Martin.Boyle@nominet.org.uk" target="_blank">Martin.Boyle@nominet.org.uk</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Dear Kavouss,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">1. I am not proposing we use the term significant minority, but was trying to explain what a small
minority might mean depending on the circumstances.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">By the way, I would pick up on your quotation from my e-mail: I was trying possible examples and
I also pointed out that the context of the opposition was also important. I do not know whether other ICG members would agree with me on the analysis: the point is whether we can use the qualifier “small.” Just saying a minority is not acceptable, for reasons
I’ve tried to explain.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">2. I do not think the term case-by-case is needed as the concept is covered in a good number of places
in the text. It is probably accidental that the term disappeared from the text because neither Alissa nor I understood what the sentence they were in actually meant.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">If you really are attached to using that phrase somewhere, it could be in 4.b. 1<sup>st</sup> bullet,
re-written as “…and not decisions related to approval/rejection of content of the proposals. The approach to making the final decision where there is no consensus needs to be handled on a case by case basis.”</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">An alternative might be under 4.c. third paragraph (deleted by me), to replace it with, “Chair and
vice chairs should assess when it might be appropriate to conclude the discussion based on the nature of the issue and the outstanding objections. This might need to be done on a case by case basis and in discussion with the members of the ICG.”</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">As I said, I think it is covered, so I leave it to you to decide if you want the reference (and which
one): paste it into the document and issue a new and cleaned up version so we have a reasonably stable version for Wednesday.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Thanks</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Martin</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> Kavouss
Arasteh [mailto:<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 12 September 2014 17:01</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>To:</b> Martin Boyle<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alissa Cooper; Coordination Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building discussion<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Martin,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Gradually we are walking towards each other.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are now much closer than before.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One thing that I noticed in your mail is the following:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I would count all of the GAC reps voting against as a significant minority. Or ALAC + ICC-BASIS might be a significant minority "
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">If your views that "all of the GAC reps voting against as a significant minority. Or ALAC + ICC-BASIS might be a
significant minority " Thus the above-mentioned groups( GAC members in toto or ALAC+ ICC-BASIS ) , if either of the two objects to an issue their objections ( objection of GAC or objection of ALAC+ICC-BASIS) WILL NOT BE are not considered AS minority
objection but significant objection ,then I agree with you provided that all ICG MEMEBRS CONFIRM THAT UNDERSTANDING</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">2.Moreover, ,I still wish to clearly refer to Case by case approach in the text.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Please while assuring me of agreement of all ICGmembers to our ( both of us ) undertanding of SIGNIFICAN MINORITY,
point me towards the area in which your text refrred to case by case approach/concept</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">And I thank you very much for that</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2014-09-12 17:35 GMT+02:00 Martin Boyle <<a href="mailto:Martin.Boyle@nominet.org.uk" target="_blank">Martin.Boyle@nominet.org.uk</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Dear Kavouss,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I just edited to try to remove the problems I had with the draft, which was what you asked me to
do.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I did not try to describe what a small minority might be. But, unqualified, a minority for this
group means 14 people not agreeing: the term needs to be qualified. How: I am not sure I’d want to define this up front. But I would note that I would count all of the GAC reps voting against as a significant minority. Or ALAC + ICC-BASIS might be a significant
minority if the issue was one that affected end users. It’s the other side of my point that the operational communities need to be comfortable with the bits that affect their service from the IANA operator.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">It is also associated with my antipathy to voting. Voting is a blunt tool: we need to consider
the consequences that we have just ignored someone, or a small group of people. Hence we should not go there until we understand what we are dealing with. I’m not going to be drawn.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">The bit you quote (“The decisions addressed in this section relate to the handling and assembling
of submitted proposal(s)”) is actually the first bullet in 4.b. Alissa picked this up, but she explained why “above-mentioned” was not helpful and suggested wording. It clarifies that we are dealing with “all other decisions.” The section is 4.b., which
could, if you want to be pedantic about it, be put in brackets after the word “section.” My amendment was to replace the word “disapproval” (which is not the opposite of approval in this case) with rejection. The point (as I understood the intention of the
original text) was that the ICG does not have the role of rejecting proposals because of the content, something that Manal picked up. This is an important point, so one I want to make sure is crystal clear.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">What do we turn down? I think it might be because the process was flawed (it was not an inclusive
process or there was a lot of opposition) or because it really won’t work. Again I’m not sure I see value in trying to enumerate the reasons – won’t we know it when we see it?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">While looking for the text you wanted me to clarify, I noticed a typo in 4.c. 2<sup>nd</sup> bullet
(recommendation): in the text I added I typed shd when I should have typed should! I’ll update the text in drop box.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Cheers</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Martin</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> Kavouss
Arasteh [mailto:<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 12 September 2014 14:20</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>To:</b> Martin Boyle<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alissa Cooper; Coordination Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building discussion<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You took your British pen and proposed a British style new version with which I have no major problem ( BY THE WAY WHAT IS MAJOR ,I DO NOT TELL YOU, SINCE YOU DIS NOT DESCRIBE WHAT
IS SMALL MINORITY ).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">However, As I explained many times I would like you kindly describe what is small minority .Until the time that this question is not answered, I have serious difficulties to accept
such a vague term due to the fact that it would turned against a particular group if other groups decide to penalize that group<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">PLEASE KINDLY EXPLAIN QUANTITATIVELY OR GROUPWISE WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY SMALL MINORITY<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">how many members out of 30 or how many communities out of 13 communities that was described in one output message ?<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span>"The <span style="color:black">decisions addressed in this section </span>
<a name="1486b31f14440196_1486ad1d0d5f0647_1486a80f65715352__msoan"></a><span lang="FR-BE" style="color:rgb(0,102,204);font-size:8pt">[AC1]</span><span lang="FR-BE" style="font-size:8pt"> </span>relate to the handling and assembling of submitted proposal(s) AND NOT DECISIONS
TO APPROVAL /REJECTION OF CONTENT OF THE PROPOSAL RELATED"<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span>WHAT ARE THE NATURE OF THOSE DECISIOS?<br>
ire they dealing with sending the final proposal to NTIA?<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span>Then please advise how and what approach will be used for cases DECISIONS TO be made for APPROVAL /REJECTION OF CONTENT OF THE PROPOSAL RELATED"?
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</span>What are those cases<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span>I am sorry the whole document is vague, unclear and ambigeous<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span>Please use your nice pencil /pen and properly and convincingly reply to my question<u></u><u></u></p>
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believe Manal’s point here, which I think is critical, is that we will not be making decisions about proposal content. So, we should not say that we will be handling those decisions on a case-by-case basis, because we will not be handling them at all.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2014-09-12 14:15 GMT+02:00 Martin Boyle <<a href="mailto:Martin.Boyle@nominet.org.uk" target="_blank">Martin.Boyle@nominet.org.uk</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Thank you Kavouss. As requested, I have made specific drafting suggestions on the latest draft in
drop box (although there was also a suggestion from Joe in a separate drafting thread where I have a slightly different line from him). I have left the comments in place as I think it is important that colleagues understand why I have concerns.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I have not tried to change the filename: as Alissa pointed out in her mail, this should wait for
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Cheers</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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Arasteh [mailto:<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 11 September 2014 21:34<br>
<b>To:</b> Martin Boyle<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alissa Cooper; Coordination Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building discussion</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">Martin</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">I agree with most of the things that you said.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">However, it might be useful that you suggest a revision marked text and move all of your comments to the covering.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">It seems that at least I have sympathy for many of your thoughts but prefer to see your text possibly not coming back to square one. No one believes that anyone else
should be excluded. A team work means everybody should be given the opportunity to comment.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">What bothers me is that some people want to restrict the process to only three operational communities .While we agree that their interest should be met but we want to
give opportunity to others </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">I am happy that you also agree to maintain the case by case approach.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">Waiting your editorial and other sort of amendment in a revision mark approach not introducing square bracket and comments in the margin</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">SUGGEST CONCRETE AMENDMENTS and give the name to the file as you wish</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">However, I wish to reiterate that I would have serious difficulties if one focus on a particular case or particular community or the language and approach used by a particular
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">We need to be general and cover every body's case
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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:14pt">Regards</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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