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Colleagues:<br>
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In an attempt to find a middle ground, I have attempted to address a
number of the issues through small edits. for small minority, I
have tried blending a number of the concepts into a new paragraph.
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style="mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Determinations of
consensus do not fit
into a formula and the concept of what is a small minority
will need to be
determined on a case-by-case basis.<span
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of determination may include the nature and seriousness of the
objection, the
scope of support for the objection – whole stakeholder
community(ies) or a
subset of a or a number of communiites and the attemps that
have been made to resolve those concerns/objections.<span
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consensus of all stakeholder communities is the objective, it
seems clear from
the NTIA requirements, that the objection of an operational
community would significantly limit the ability of the ICG to
submit an acceptable
consensus proposal. <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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Other issues include a clarification of subject matter decisions (we
do make decisions as to sufficiency of subject matter to meet NTIA
requirement or the lack of consensus on an issue, that is beyond
assembling, what we don't do is redraft the proposal), as well as
Martin's question related to why polling...<br>
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Hope these help.<br>
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Joe <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/12/2014 8:15 AM, Martin Boyle
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank
you Kavouss. As requested, I have made specific drafting
suggestions on the latest draft in drop box (although there
was also a suggestion from Joe in a separate drafting thread
where I have a slightly different line from him). I have
left the comments in place as I think it is important that
colleagues understand why I have concerns.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
have not tried to change the filename: as Alissa pointed
out in her mail, this should wait for a new clean draft to
avoid causing confusion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> Kavouss Arasteh
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 11 September 2014 21:34<br>
<b>To:</b> Martin Boyle<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alissa Cooper; Coordination Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus building
discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;vertical-align:middle"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"
lang="EN-US">Martin</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;vertical-align:middle"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"
lang="EN-US">I agree with most of the things that you
said.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;vertical-align:middle"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"
lang="EN-US">However, it might be useful that you
suggest a revision marked text and move all of your
comments to the covering.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;vertical-align:middle"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"
lang="EN-US">It seems that at least I have sympathy for
many of your thoughts but prefer to see your text
possibly not coming back to square one. No one believes
that anyone else should be excluded. A team work means
everybody should be given the opportunity to comment.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;vertical-align:middle"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"
lang="EN-US">What bothers me is that some people want to
restrict the process to only three operational
communities .While we agree that their interest should
be met but we want to give opportunity to others </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;vertical-align:middle"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"
lang="EN-US">I am happy that you also agree to maintain
the case by case approach.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;vertical-align:middle"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"
lang="EN-US">Waiting your editorial and other sort of
amendment in a revision mark approach not introducing
square bracket and comments in the margin</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;vertical-align:middle"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"
lang="EN-US">SUGGEST CONCRETE AMENDMENTS and give the
name to the file as you wish</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;vertical-align:middle"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"
lang="EN-US">However, I wish to reiterate that I would
have serious difficulties if one focus on a particular
case or particular community or the language and
approach used by a particular community</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;vertical-align:middle"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"
lang="EN-US">We need to be general and cover every
body's case
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;vertical-align:middle"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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