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<font face="Calibri">+1 ... I agree with Joe ...!<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/18/14 4:13 PM, joseph alhadeff
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:541B2EC6.5080803@oracle.com" type="cite">Alissa
<br>
<br>
If we are going to have subsets of ICG members answering questions
and engaging in conversations related to proposal development then
we had better develop some talking points because we need to be
consistent across our conversations...
<br>
<br>
Joe
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On 9/18/2014 2:48 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">I agree with Lynn’s point below about
responsibility — I actually think
<br>
one of the most important functions of this group is, as our
charter
<br>
states, information sharing. And helping people understand how
to engage
<br>
in the transition proposal development process is a critical
component of
<br>
that, in my opinion.
<br>
<br>
Also, I agree with those who have said we should not have an
exclusive
<br>
list of groups that we meet with. We (and “we” can mean one or
two people,
<br>
or a handful, or the whole group) should be willing to meet and
talk with
<br>
any group that needs help understanding how to engage in the
process. If
<br>
that means meeting with ICC-BASIS or doing a webinar for ISOC
chapters or
<br>
having side meetings at ICANN51, we should do as many of those
things as
<br>
we can accommodate. There are 30 of us and we should share the
workload,
<br>
just as we’ve been doing with our other work. And with my IETF
hat on,
<br>
there are plenty of people I could further delegate to who are
very
<br>
capable of explaining the IETF process and how to participate in
our
<br>
IANAPLAN working group process, and I would hope that we could
leverage
<br>
them as well.
<br>
<br>
We started this conversation about side meetings with the GAC
and ALAC
<br>
because those groups pro-actively reached out to us and said
“I’d like to
<br>
hear from you." If we need to proactively do outreach to other
groups —
<br>
ccNSO? CWG? gNSO? RIRs? who else? — to see if they want to talk,
we should
<br>
do it. Patrik, Mohamed, and I can work on that outreach for
ICANN51 if
<br>
people want it and can help with providing appropriate contacts.
<br>
<br>
I also wanted to make clear that the proposed GAC and ALAC side
meetings
<br>
will be public (and likely translated into a few languages at
least). So
<br>
there would be nothing other than scheduling conflicts
preventing anyone
<br>
from attending or tuning in.
<br>
<br>
Alissa
<br>
<br>
On 9/18/14, 4:56 AM, "Lynn St.Amour" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Lynn@lstamour.org"><Lynn@lstamour.org></a>
wrote:
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<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Not all communities have the same norms,
expectations, or culture; nor
<br>
are they necessarily working to the ones we are. I believe
we have a
<br>
responsibility to make this process as accessible, inclusive,
and
<br>
understandable as possible. In other words, to do whatever we
can to
<br>
minimize barriers to participation or support. Dialogue in
more focused
<br>
groups can be very beneficial to all, as we have just seen in
our own G11
<br>
group on "consensus".
<br>
<br>
I strongly support Martin and Manal's points. Maybe those
that are more
<br>
reluctant could expound a bit?
<br>
<br>
Best,
<br>
Lynn
<br>
<br>
On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Martin Boyle
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Martin.Boyle@nominet.org.uk"><Martin.Boyle@nominet.org.uk></a>
<br>
wrote:
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Joe is obviously a lot harder touch
than me: I have a lot of sympathy
<br>
for stakeholders in and outside the ICANN environment and
the barriers
<br>
that they can confront in engaging in processes. I also
think that the
<br>
non-operational communities probably do need to understand
how to engage
<br>
and we need to understand what their concerns are (and any
barriers to
<br>
their engagement). So these meetings should not be a chore
but an
<br>
opportunity for us to make sure that what we receive on 15
January is in
<br>
good shape.
<br>
So I’d be sympathetic to GAC and to ALAC in the ICANN
meeting.
<br>
I’m less concerned about the operational communities which
are all well
<br>
represented on the ICG. But even here, dialogue with the
<br>
cross-community working group has to be a useful part of the
process.
<br>
There will be a bit of an issue if we fail to communicate
information
<br>
fairly – a question answered in one group might also be
relevant for
<br>
another group. I do not see this as irresolvable – we
should keep a
<br>
note of questions and responses and either publish a FAQ or
spend some
<br>
time at the open session bringing everyone up to the same
place.
<br>
Then we have the post RfP discussions: surely a new
environment and
<br>
again I think we will need to be generous with our time so
that we
<br>
understand what people are saying and where concerns lie.
We need to
<br>
keep our dialogue open throughout the whole process so that
we do not
<br>
get caught out by issues when we think we’ve sewn a credible
package
<br>
together.
<br>
Of course we do not all need to cover every stakeholder
engagement
<br>
opportunity!
<br>
Hope this helps
<br>
Martin
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of joseph
alhadeff
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Sent: 18 September 2014 12:04
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To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org">internal-cg@icann.org</a>
<br>
Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Extended session in Los Angeles
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Patrik, colleagues:
<br>
<br>
Based on Heather's comments and my experience interacting
with a number
<br>
of governments not accustomed to the multistakeholder
process in the Net
<br>
Mundial meeting, I think there may be a justification for a
separate
<br>
meeting with GAC... As much as I would prefer not to have
such a
<br>
separate meeting, I am not sure that they would actively
participate in
<br>
the extended forum your reference... We should be very
specific however
<br>
that is would be a one time accommodation to assist in
acclimation to
<br>
the process.
<br>
<br>
On the forum session, perhaps we could set aside 45 minutes
as Q&A with
<br>
communities?
<br>
<br>
Joe
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 9/18/2014 6:29 AM, Patrik Fältström wrote:
<br>
All,
<br>
Alice has checked and confirmed we could extend the time
for the open
<br>
session in Los Angeles with 30 minutes, to 120 minutes.
<br>
The time is as follows (timezone local time in Los
Angeles):
<br>
Thursday, 16 October.
<br>
Start time: 10:00
<br>
End time: 12:00
<br>
I will come back with an updated proposal for agenda.
<br>
Patrik
<br>
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