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Martin:<br>
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The reason I am concerned about other communities, is not that they
don't have legitimate questions or issues, but that the answers to
their questions are useful to other communities - GAC is a bit
unique there. I know, for example, that business questions about
how to participate are useful to be heard by the operational
communities because they are part of the answer to the question as
early participation in proposal development should be accomplished
through participation in the operational proposal development
processes. I would assume the same would be true for a number of
ALAC questions - I am sure that they would be relevant to business
stakeholders... <br>
<br>
Will the Thursday forum be open to those no part of the ICANN
meeting? I am also concerned if we only provide such outreach
opportunities on the margin of ICANN events we will be leaving out a
broad range of stakeholders who may most need interaction with us on
how to participate. I am very sensitive to stakeholders who are
concerned with the impression or potential that insiders of the
ICANN processes have a privileged role or ability to influence the
process...<br>
<br>
Joe<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/18/2014 7:44 AM, Martin Boyle
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Joe
is obviously a lot harder touch than me: I have a lot of
sympathy for stakeholders in and outside the ICANN
environment and the barriers that they can confront in
engaging in processes. I also think that the
non-operational communities probably do need to understand
how to engage and we need to understand what their concerns
are (and any barriers to their engagement). So these
meetings should not be a chore but an opportunity for us to
make sure that what we receive on 15 January is in good
shape.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So
I’d be sympathetic to GAC and to ALAC in the ICANN meeting.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m
less concerned about the operational communities which are
all well represented on the ICG. But even here, dialogue
with the cross-community working group has to be a useful
part of the process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There
will be a bit of an issue if we fail to communicate
information fairly – a question answered in one group might
also be relevant for another group. I do not see this as
irresolvable – we should keep a note of questions and
responses and either publish a FAQ or spend some time at the
open session bringing everyone up to the same place.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Then
we have the post RfP discussions: surely a new environment
and again I think we will need to be generous with our time
so that we understand what people are saying and where
concerns lie. We need to keep our dialogue open throughout
the whole process so that we do not get caught out by issues
when we think we’ve sewn a credible package together.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Of
course we do not all need to cover every stakeholder
engagement opportunity!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hope
this helps<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>joseph alhadeff<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 September 2014 12:04<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org">internal-cg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Extended session in
Los Angeles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Patrik,
colleagues:<br>
<br>
Based on Heather's comments and my experience interacting with
a number of governments not accustomed to the multistakeholder
process in the Net Mundial meeting, I think there may be a
justification for a separate meeting with GAC... As much as I
would prefer not to have such a separate meeting, I am not
sure that they would actively participate in the extended
forum your reference... We should be very specific however
that is would be a one time accommodation to assist in
acclimation to the process.
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On the forum session, perhaps we could set aside 45 minutes as
Q&A with communities?<br>
<br>
Joe<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 9/18/2014 6:29 AM, Patrik Fältström
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>All,<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Alice has checked and confirmed we could extend the time for the open session in Los Angeles with 30 minutes, to 120 minutes.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>The time is as follows (timezone local time in Los Angeles):<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Thursday, 16 October.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Start time: 10:00<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>End time: 12:00<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>I will come back with an updated proposal for agenda.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre> Patrik<o:p></o:p></pre>
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