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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>At the risk of poking the bear, the paragraph proposed below for page 2 would be clearer if it gained a couple of prepositions and replaced ‘meet’ with ‘be consistent with’, ie:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>For cases <s>for which</s> <span style='color:red'>where</span> it has been previously agreed that a decision is to be made at a given meeting and one or more members are not <s> in a position to attend</s> <span style='color:red'>present at</span> that meeting, these members may provide their views to the ICG in advance in order <s>that</s> <span style='color:#00B050'>for </span>those views <span style='color:#00B050'>to </span>be considered at the scheduled meeting<s> for decision making</s>. Should the decision made not <s>meet</s> <span style='color:#00B050'>be consistent with </span>the <s>requirements </s><span style='color:red'>views</span> of those absent, there should be another attempt to find a suitable compromise. Absent members<s> </s> should be invited to provide the ICG with a written statement of their concerns for inclusion in the report /conclusions of the ICG.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I’m not too fussed either way but the language overall could be simplified further.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Narelle<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> internal-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Manal Ismail<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 17 September 2014 8:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> Alissa Cooper; joseph alhadeff; internal-cg@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus document - for discussion Sept 17<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Many thanks Alissa and all who have contributed to this document ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I'm sending my editorial remarks below following your suggestion .. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>It's worth noting that I'm flexible to revert to the original language wherever deemed more appropriate ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Page 1:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>4<sup>th</sup> paragraph under 2. : replace capital 'M' of 'ICG Members' with small 'm' for consistency<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I've tried the url at the footnote and it did not work (might be my problem but worth someone else checking) ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Page 2:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>3<sup>rd</sup> paragraph under 3. : </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>For cases <s>for which</s> <span style='color:red'>where</span> it has been previously agreed that a decision is to be made at a given meeting and one or more members are not <s> in a position to attend</s> <span style='color:red'>present at</span> that meeting, these members may provide their views to the ICG in advance in order that those views be considered at the scheduled meeting<s> for decision making</s>. Should the decision made not meet the <s>requirements </s><span style='color:red'>views</span> of those absent, there should be another attempt to find a suitable compromise. Absent members<s> </s> should be invited to provide the ICG with a written statement of their concerns for inclusion in the report /conclusions of the ICG.</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>4<sup>th</sup> paragraph under 3. : I suggest the deletion of this paragraph as, to me, it is completely redundant to paragraph 3 above .. if it was decided to remain, there's a missing full-stop at the end of the paragraph ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I do not dare to suggest any changes on the following pages </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Hope you find the above straight forward non-substantial changes .. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>--Manal<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alissa Cooper<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> joseph alhadeff; <a href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org">internal-cg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Consensus document - for discussion Sept 17<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;color:black'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;color:black'>Attached and in Dropbox are the versions we will use on the call on Sept 17:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;color:black'>ICG Guidelines for the Decision Making-v12-MU-ALC-JA-ALC.docx<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;color:black'>ICG Guidelines for the Decision Making-v12-MU-ALC-JA-ALC-clean.docx<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;color:black'>All of the changes since v12-MU-ALC are editorial (mostly typo fixes and white space deletions), except one: on page 1, I added the text suggested by Joe about public comment periods. The editorial fixes include the suggestions made by Joe, Wolf-Ulrich, Kavouss, and Milton (off-list).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;color:black'>If people spot further editorial issues prior to the call, please send them in email to the mailing list, rather than editing the document directly, and I will incorporate them prior to the call.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;color:black'>Alissa<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;color:black'>On 9/16/14, 5:14 AM, "joseph alhadeff" <<a href="mailto:joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com">joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #B5C4DF 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt' id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Alissa, Colleagues:<br><br>The draft is acceptable as is - thanks for your work on editing... I have proposed a few non-substantive edits to improve understanding - for example use of public comment forum may be read not to include written comments, propose replacing forum with consultation, etc.<br><br>One possible addition might be a reaffirmation of our commitment to consultation which should be differentiated from our 7 day period for decisions... Possible language which could be added to making decisions could be:<br><br></span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>ICG will make all reasonable efforts to enable member stakeholder communities to have appropriate time to consult with their members on issues on which the ICG will make substantive decisions. Where appropriate and practicable, public comment periods will also be provided</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'> .<br><br>Joe<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>On 9/16/2014 4:40 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>I am at another meeting <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>I have read your edited text which seems to cover most or almost every points.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Please let me to ck it again and come back to you <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Kavouss <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>_______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list <a href="mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org">Internal-cg@icann.org</a> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>