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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Many thanks Martin .. I've noted
your concern on Q9 1/2 and added the sentence you proposed to Q14's answer .. I
have incorporated all comments, to my best, in the attached version and in Dropbox
.. Hope this reflects accurately what has been suggested ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I'm not clear about the modifications
you are suggesting for Q15 & Q16, so apologies for that ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I also recall that we, the
drafting group, have agreed to share a clean version with ICG colleagues, so if
you have comments pending from earlier drafting iterations appreciate adding
them or letting me know ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>--Manal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Martin Boyle
[mailto:Martin.Boyle@nominet.org.uk] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 30, 2014 12:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Manal Ismail<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Milton L Mueller; internal-cg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] ICG FAQ ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I agree with Manal's concern on the final sentence of Q9
1/2. Better might be to look at the level of support for the position and
the way the community proposal addresses the issue.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Q14 is it worth adding after the first sentence that,
"Operational communities have been asked to consider oversight and
accountability in their proposals."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>For Q15, Manal is right about running behind the moving
train. But I now realise that the answer is very ICANN centric! In part
this is corrected in the next question, but I would suggest that this
question should look at the operational communities and those directly engaged
with them (GAC, ALAC...), while the next question could then refer to
addressing those who do not take part, but will be affected - the business
community, ccTLDs that are not in ICANN etc<br>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 30 Sep 2014, at 10:48, "Manal Ismail" <<a
href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Many thanks Milton ..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Noted .. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Further comments inline below ..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>--Manal</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Milton L Mueller [<a
href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mailto:mueller@syr.edu</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Manal Ismail; <a href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org">internal-cg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: ICG FAQ ..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Manal et al</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Good start. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I would propose the following
modifications. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Add a new
question between #9 and
#10, which I here label 9 ½ :</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><b>9 ½ Can I submit my own
proposal for how the IANA transition should take place? </b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>You can, but the ICG is not authorized to pick and choose
among competing proposals. That would centralize the authority over the IANA
transition in ICG’s hands, and the general preference is for a bottom up,
consensual process. If you submit a proposal directly to the ICG without
participating in the processes convened by the operational communities, all the
ICG can do is forward that proposal to the relevant OCs. If you think your
ideas have been ignored or not fairly treated in the OC proposal development
process, you can express this view directly to the ICG or in the public comment
period. But the ICG cannot give these objections any weight if the person made
no effort to participate in the operational community-convened process.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>[MI]: Noted .. will add it to
the new version that is to be circulated shortly .. Although, personally, I
would be reluctant to leave the last sentence "</span>But the ICG cannot
give these objections any weight if the person made no effort to participate in
the operational community-convened process.<span style='color:#1F497D'>"
.. I think it's a bit negative and I don't think it adds .. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>On <b>Question 14</b>, I found the answer not very
meaningful. I would propose the following alternative language: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>ICG is closely following <a
href="https://community.icann.org/category/accountability">ICANN Accountability
Process</a>. After receiving consensus proposals from the operational
communities, ICG will conduct an analysis of their overall implications for
ICANN accountability. If there are gaps or problems, ICG will check to see
whether these gaps are filled by the results of the ICANN enhanced
accountability process. If they are not, ICG will return the proposals to the
relevant operational community(ies) for amendment.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>[MI]: Happy to replace with your
proposed language .. Looking forward to other reactions as this is one of the
few questions we did not discuss thoroughly and have no agreed position on ..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>On <b>Question 15</b>, “How is ICG reaching out?”
I would delete the language “ICG members <s>have participated in
the </s><a
href="http://london50.icann.org/en/schedule/thu-iana-stewardship-transition"><s>IANA
stewardship transition session</s></a><s> held at the ICANN 50 meeting in
London, and</s> <span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>If someone asks that question now they don’t care what
we did 3-4 months ago. They want to know what we are doing now. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>[MI]: Noted .. although soon
after, this will also become a past event.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Manal Ismail<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 29, 2014 2:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org">internal-cg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Internal-cg] ICG FAQ ..<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Dear All ..<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Please find attached, and in dropbox, a draft FAQ we
(Martin, Patrik, Mohamed, Alissa & myself) have prepared to be discussed on
the upcoming call ..<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>This is supposed to be a living document .. So the
target is to come up with an initial agreed version rather than an exhaustive
complete one ..<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Looking forward to receiving your feedback over email and/or
during the call ..<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>--Manal<o:p></o:p></p>
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