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<DIV>Thanks Alissa,</DIV>
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<DIV>I'm fine with your amendments.</DIV>
<DIV>Re the definition of “broad public support” I agree to the plain English
reading (“most people and communities that we hear from are in favor”).</DIV>
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regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=alissa@cooperw.in
href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">Alissa Cooper</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 12, 2014 12:35 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">Kavouss Arasteh</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=internal-cg@icann.org
href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org">ICG</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Internal-cg] Proposal finalization process,
post-call</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Hi Kavouss,</DIV>
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<DIV>I’ve attached a version that addresses some of your comments. For the rest,
my responses are below.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In step 2, you asked:</DIV>
<DIV>What do we mean by “the differences between the communities and the related
IANA functions”?</DIV>
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<DIV>From my perspective the communities are different — they operate
differently, they document things differently, the IANA functions that they make
use of cover different registries, they rely on IANA in different ways (e.g.,
1000s of change requests from the IETF per year versus many fewer IP address
delegations), etc. So their proposals will reflect these differences.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In step 2, you asked:</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">What are the basis to make such
accountability assessment without receiving output from CWG abnd
CCWG?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">The proposal from CWG IANA will be part of
the basis for the accountability assessment (along with the proposals from the
IETF and RIR communities). On the call there was support for relying on the CWG
IANA as the voice of the names community, including relying on their choice to
leverage the CCWG Accountability work or not.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">In step 2, you asked:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>Do we mean interoperability since workability has no sense here?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In RFP Section IV we ask the communities to provide the following:</DIV>
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<DIV>"Description of how you have tested or evaluated the workability of any new
technical or</DIV>
<DIV>operational methods proposed in this document and how they compare to
established</DIV>
<DIV>arrangements."</DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>That is the sense in which we are using the term workability.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In step 3, you said:</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">The minimum time should not be less that
30 days </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">This step is scoped for more than 90 days,
so I think this is covered.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">In step 4, you said:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">I agree with Alissa to repolce “ broad
public support” with the language that she suggested which is more clear and
stragight forward </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I was not suggesting any changes to language in this
section. I was just explaining in email what I think “broad public support”
means.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Best,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Alissa</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>On Dec 11, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Alissa Cooper <<A
href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</A>> wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: helvetica"><B>From:
</B></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'">Kavouss Arasteh <<A
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</A>><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: helvetica"><B>Subject:
</B></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'"><B>Fwd: [Internal-cg]
Proposal finalization process, post-call</B><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: helvetica"><B>Date:
</B></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'">December 11, 2014 at
9:08:00 AM PST<BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: helvetica"><B>To:
</B></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'">Alissa Cooper <<A
href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</A>><BR></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>Please find attached my comments </DIV>
<DIV>Kavouss </DIV>
<DIV>Pls send it to others as I failed to do that </DIV>
<DIV>Kavouss <BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>2014-12-11 17:11 GMT+01:00 Daniel Karrenberg <SPAN
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target=_blank>daniel.karrenberg@ripe.net</A>></SPAN>:<BR>
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in section 5 now addresses all concerns I have raised.<BR><BR>The rest of
the document now looks reasonable as well. I agree with the new intro,
even in the light of my 'ceterum censeo'. ;-)<BR><BR>Thank you
Alissa.<SPAN><FONT color=#888888><BR><BR>Daniel</FONT></SPAN>
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Hi Kavouss,<BR><BR>I’ve attached a version that addresses some of your comments.
For the rest, my responses are below.<BR><BR>In step 2, you asked:<BR>What do we
mean by “the differences between the communities and the related IANA
functions”?<BR><BR>From my perspective the communities are different — they
operate differently, they document things differently, the IANA functions that
they make use of cover different registries, they rely on IANA in different ways
(e.g., 1000s of change requests from the IETF per year versus many fewer IP
address delegations), etc. So their proposals will reflect these
differences.<BR><BR>In step 2, you asked:<BR>What are the basis to make such
accountability assessment without receiving output from CWG abnd
CCWG?<BR><BR>The proposal from CWG IANA will be part of the basis for the
accountability assessment (along with the proposals from the IETF and RIR
communities). On the call there was support for relying on the CWG IANA as the
voice of the names community, including relying on their choice to leverage the
CCWG Accountability work or not.<BR><BR>In step 2, you asked:<BR>Do we mean
interoperability since workability has no sense here?<BR><BR>In RFP Section IV
we ask the communities to provide the following:<BR>"Description of how you have
tested or evaluated the workability of any new technical or<BR>operational
methods proposed in this document and how they compare to
established<BR>arrangements."<BR><BR>That is the sense in which we are using the
term workability.<BR><BR>In step 3, you said:<BR>The minimum time should not be
less that 30 days <BR><BR>This step is scoped for more than 90 days, so I think
this is covered.<BR><BR>In step 4, you said:<BR>I agree with Alissa to repolce “
broad public support” with the language that she suggested which is more clear
and stragight forward <BR><BR>I was not suggesting any changes to language
in this section. I was just explaining in email what I think “broad public
support” means.<BR><BR>Best,<BR>Alissa<BR><BR><BR>On Dec 11, 2014, at 9:13 AM,
Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> wrote:<BR><BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
Begin forwarded message:<BR>> <BR>>> From: Kavouss Arasteh
<kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com><BR>>> Subject: Fwd: [Internal-cg]
Proposal finalization process, post-call<BR>>> Date: December 11, 2014 at
9:08:00 AM PST<BR>>> To: Alissa Cooper
<alissa@cooperw.in><BR>>> <BR>>> Please find attached my
comments<BR>>> Kavouss<BR>>> Pls send it to others as I failed to do
that<BR>>> Kavouss <BR>>> <BR>>> 2014-12-11 17:11 GMT+01:00
Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg@ripe.net>:<BR>>> <BR>>>
Language in section 5 now addresses all concerns I have raised.<BR>>>
<BR>>> The rest of the document now looks reasonable as well. I agree with
the new intro, even in the light of my 'ceterum censeo'. ;-)<BR>>>
<BR>>> Thank you Alissa.<BR>>> <BR>>> Daniel<BR>>>
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