<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>One of our central obligations is to provide a proposal that gains broad community consensus. If it appears that a community is facing a timing issue on developing community consensus with a need for more time to consult (including due to coordination needs with related topics) I think we need to accommodate them. The sooner we adapt our internal timeline the better we can plan our work towards meeting the ultimate time frame. I would support the continued parallel work in the interim on other proposals. Finally, Alissa, I would support the outreach while stressing the need for continued diligence in working towards deadlines and keeping us regularly informed on progress during the extension.</div><div><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jan 15, 2015, at 7:51 AM, WUKnoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div>First of all I would appreciate this e-mail exchange staying within the ICG
only until reaching a conclusion before including others (e.g. CCWG
members).</div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">Martin,
during yesterday’s call I’ve referred to the flowchart you mentioned - and I add
it here to put all of as to the same level. I would appreciate to discuss this
furtheron.</div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">The charts
indicates a flow – but no timeline attached to it. For me it says that the
workstream 1 (accountability) input to the proposal shall come through the CWG
and the CCWG (plus their respective chartering organizations). To learn more
about (including timeline implications) is the intention of the note to be sent
to the CWG.<br><br>Best regards<br><br>Wolf-Ulrich<br><br></div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="Martin.Boyle@nominet.org.uk" href="mailto:Martin.Boyle@nominet.org.uk">Martin Boyle</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 15, 2015 12:19 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">WUKnoben</a> ; <a title="alissa@cooperw.in" href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">Alissa Cooper</a> ; <a title="internal-cg@icann.org" href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org">ICG</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Internal-cg] Note to CWG re
timeline?</div></div></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d">Hi
all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d">I’m
sorry not to have been able to join you on the call
yesterday.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d">I’m
not quite sure what we hope to achieve from the message to the CWG. I’m
not opposed, but what are we going to do with the response? I’m not sure
it brings us any further forward other than an admission that the date will
slip. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d">Yesterday
Jonathan Robinson & Lise Fuhr (co chairs of the CWG-Stewardship) circulated
a flowchart showing conditionality of the CWG’s work on the CCWG-Accountability
track. Was this discussed last night? I certainly see this as an
important step in that it proposes an approach that recognises the dependence
and shows a way to address it. We should perhaps express willingness to
discuss this with the CWG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d">Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></span> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>WUKnoben<br><b>Sent:</b> 15 January 2015 10:27<br><b>To:</b>
Alissa Cooper; ICG<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Note to CWG re
timeline?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">Thanks
Alissa,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">a note would be
helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">With regards to the
text I suggest asking the CWG also - in case of time revision - what are the
major challenges they encounter (e.g. coordination with
CCWG-accountability).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">I've tried to insert
it in your draft (see below). Please feel free to
polish.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">Wolf-Ulrich
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">-----Ursprüngliche
Nachricht----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">From: Alissa Cooper
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">Sent: Wednesday,
January 14, 2015 11:21 PM <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">To: ICG
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">Subject: [Internal-cg]
Note to CWG re timeline? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">Wolf-Ulrich suggested
on the call today that we send a note to the CWG to obtain more information
about their expected timeline if it does indeed slip. I’m happy to send such a
note if people agree. I’ve drafted something up
below.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">What do others think?
Should we send a note? What do you think of the text
below?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">Alissa<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">Dear
CWG,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">The ICG has been
following the developments in all of the operational communities, including the
naming community. We have noted some discussions about the possibility that the
CWG might require additional time to complete its response to the ICG RFP beyond
its original planned submission date of January 30, 2015. We would ask that if
you decide to revise your estimated completion date that you share with the ICG
your revised expected timeline.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: red">You may also indicate
the CWG’s major challenges leading to the revision and whether the ICG is deemed
to coordinate here.</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">Thank
you,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">Alissa Cooper on
behalf of the ICG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black">_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
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