<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Manal,</div><div>Thank you again </div><div>Do not appologize as it was not necessary</div><div>Pls kindly note my last comments to you as well</div><div>Kavouss </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-01-31 23:42 GMT+01:00 Jon Nevett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jon@donuts.co" target="_blank">jon@donuts.co</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><font face="Arial" size="4">Folks:</font></p><div><font face="Arial" size="4">I would edit one comment below. I don't think that every comment/complaint requires an answer nor do I think we dictate what the operational communities do in that regard. </font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="4">Instead of:</font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><a><font face="Arial" size="4">
</font></a><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="4"><a><span style="line-height:115%">ICG needs to be ensured by the Operational Community(ies) that all
comments/complaints have been carefully considered by the corresponding
community and the complainant(s) was/were duly answered.</span></a></font></p><div><font face="Arial" size="4">
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<div language="JavaScript"><a name="14b42294898770f2__msocom_1"></a><p>How about this?</p><p><a></a><div style="display:inline!important"><div style="display:inline!important"><div language="JavaScript" style="display:inline!important"><p style="display:inline!important"><a>"The Operational Communities should carefully consider all comments/complaints and should confirm with the ICG that they have done so." </a></p></div></div></div><p></p></p></div></div></font></div><p></p>
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<span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Jon</div></span>
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<br><div><div><div class="h5"><div>On Jan 31, 2015, at 5:16 PM, "Manal Ismail" <<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" target="_blank">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>> wrote:</div><br></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" style vlink="purple" link="blue"><div><div class="h5"><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Dear Mr. Arasteh ..<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Sincere apologies to have overlooked your comments that were sent to me ..<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">I have included them in the attached and on Dropbox ..<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Please let me know if this accurately reflects all your comments ..<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Kind Regards<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">--Manal<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"> </span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt"><b><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><span> </span>Kavouss Arasteh [mailto:<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@</a><a style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>]<span> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Saturday, January 31, 2015 4:48 PM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>Manal Ismail<br><b>Cc:</b><span> </span>joseph alhadeff; Coordination Group; Daniel Karrenberg<br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [Internal-cg] Community Comments Handling Process ..<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt">Manal,<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt">I sent you my comments in two forms<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt">One a clean text<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt">the other texts with revision marks<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt">Have you kindly considered and took them into account<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt">The points that I raised are important and should be reflected in the texts<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt">Kavouss<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt">2015-01-31 13:03 GMT+01:00 Daniel Karrenberg <<a style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:daniel.karrenberg@ripe.net" target="_blank">daniel.karrenberg@ripe.net</a>>:<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt"><br><br>I remain unconvinced that we need such a procedure.<br><br>There is no need to respond to individual comments. It is sufficient to note that the ICG is paying attention to the forum.<br><br>There is no need to forward any comments to anyone. The forum is public and anyone can read it. It is sufficient to point those we wish to take action based on comments to the forum.<br><br>We can always request specific actions from anyone.<br><br>On the other hand the procedure creates risks of abuse and bad press for us.<br><br>Thus we should not implement this procedure.<br><br><br>Details:<br><br>1 - Alert<br>This serves no essential purpose as we are all aware of the forum. as written it causes the secretariat to forward, and thus multiply, spam.<br><br>2 - Acknowledge<br>This serves no essential purpose as the commenter can check whether their comment appears in the forum themselves. It creates a risk for error because it assumes the secretariat can reliably determine what in fact is spam. While I agree with Martin that "common courtesy" is desirable this does not justify the additional effort and the risk.<br><br>3 - Forward<br>This serves no essential purpose as the OCs can read the public forum. It involves an unnecessary decision about what is spam and which operational community is relevant together with the associated risks for abuse and error. We can make the suggestion without forwarding individual comments.<br><br>4 - Follow-up<br>This is not really part of a (new) procedure. 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