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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Patrik Fältström [mailto:paf@frobbit.se]
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 7, 2015 9:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Milton L Mueller<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jennifer Chung; ICG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Action items from ICG Face-to-Face Meeting #4, 6-7 February 2015<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So far we have talked about 2 weeks timer for the response when we are interacting with the OC's.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That is what we are looking at when working on the timeline. If this is suddenly 4 weeks, it will have impact on the timeline as a whole.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Patrik<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 8 feb 2015, at 09:58, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Alissa is awaiting suggestions for a date for a response to this question.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">My suggestion is that we request that they tell us within 30 days _<i>how</i>_ they plan to go about resolving this issue (e.g., meetings, etc.) and once they
respond in that way we ask them to suggest a timeline for how quickly they think they can resolve it.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Milton L Mueller<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, February 7, 2015 8:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Jennifer Chung; 'ICG'<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Internal-cg] Action items from ICG Face-to-Face Meeting #4, 6-7 February 2015<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jennifer,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You forgot the question we agreed to send jointly to the numbers and protocol parameters group.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I was responsible for this, but yesterday when I said it was “done” I meant that the question had been approved by the group. I do not think it was “finished”
in the sense that we have formally transmitted it to the two OCs. I would like to know how that will be done, and when.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">For everyone’s reference, here is the agreed question:</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The IETF consensus as reflected in draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response did not include a formal request to change the arrangements regarding the IANA trademark and the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://iana.org/"><span style="color:#954F72">iana.org</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>domain
as a requirement of its transition proposal. But Section III.A.2 of the RIR proposal says: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">"With regards to the IANA trademark and the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://iana.org/"><span style="color:#954F72">IANA.ORG</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>domain,
it is the expectation of the Internet Number Community that both are associated with the IANA Numbering Services and not with a particular IANA Numbering Services Operator. Identifying an organization that is not the IANA Numbering Services Operator and which
will permanently hold these assets will facilitate a smooth transition should another operator (or operators) be selected in the future. It is the preference of the Internet Number Community that the IANA trademark and the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://iana.org/"><span style="color:#954F72">IANA.ORG</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>domain
name be transferred to an entity independent of the IANA Numbering Services Operator, in order to ensure that these assets are used in a non-discriminatory manner for the benefit of the entire community. From the Internet Number Community’s perspective, the
IETF Trust would be an acceptable candidate for this role.” <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The numbers proposal sees these changes as a requirement of the transition and the protocols parameters proposal does not. If these aspects of the proposals are perceived as
incompatible would the numbers and protocol parameters communities be willing to modify their proposals to reconcile them?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org"><span style="color:#954F72">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org"><span style="color:#954F72">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Jennifer Chung<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, February 7, 2015 6:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>'ICG'<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[Internal-cg] Action items from ICG Face-to-Face Meeting #4, 6-7 February 2015<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hello All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">As reviewed by the ICG chairs, please find the list of action items from the ICG Face-to-Face Meeting #4 below:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">1. Secretariat to summarize questions/answers resolved internally about the protocol parameters proposal and numbers proposal discussed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">2. Arkko to compile a list of for a request for information from the protocol parameters community re jurisdiction, NTIA oversight and send it to internal-cg list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">3. Wilson to request clarification from CRISP team, questions put forth by Arasteh (regarding Section II.B.2 and III.A of the numbers proposal).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">4. ICG chairs to review details of the proposal finalization process and refine ICG timeline with assistance from Secretariat.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">5. Ismail, Arasteh, St. Amour, Alhadeff, Subrenat to continue working on community comments handling document with suggestions put forward by other ICG members.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">6. ICG to continue to discuss and agree on talking points and ICG chairs to send bullet points for Monday session on the internal-cg list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">7. Fältström to communicate with CWG-IANA and CCWG-Accountability before coordinating ICG teleconference schedule.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jennifer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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