<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>As Narelle pointed out, we ask about this explicitly in section IV bullet point 5 in our RFP:</div><div><br></div><div>"Description of how long the proposals in Section III are expected to take to complete, and any
intermediate milestones that may occur before they are completed."</div> <br><div>So we expect the proposal we receive from the CWG to address this. My understanding is that the bulk of the CWG’s work on RFP section IV will continue once the group has more clarity on the content of the response to RFP section III.</div><div><br></div><div>Alissa</div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Feb 16, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Manal Ismail <<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Further to the below exchange, here is what Larry said regarding implementation in the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><a href="http://singapore52.icann.org/en/schedule/sun-iana-stewardship-accountability" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">IANA Stewardship Transition/Enhancing ICANN Accountability Information Session</a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>on Sun. ..<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">“</span>AND I ALSO ASK THAT THE COMMUNITY CONSIDER THAT GIVEN THE NEED TO DEVELOP, IMPLEMENT, AND TEST THESE STRUCTURES PRIOR TO A FINAL TRANSITION, CAN THEY GET IT ALL DONE IN A TIME FRAME CONSISTENT WITH THE EXPECTATIONS OF ALL STAKEHOLDERS?I ASKED TODAY AT A MEETING SOME REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CWG WERE PRESENT WHETHER THERE HAD BEEN ANY DISCUSSION OR ANY ESTIMATE OF THE LENGTH OF TIME IT MIGHT TAKE TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE PROPOSALS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT ON THE TABLE. AND I HAVE TO SAY NO ONE COULD ANSWER THAT, AND I HOPE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT IMPLEMENTATION HAS TO BE FACTORED INTO THE TIME FRAME FOR TRANSITION. AND IF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS GOING TO TAKE A YEAR TO IMPLEMENT, WELL, THAT WILL DELAY THE ULTIMATE TRANSITION OF THE IANA FUNCTIONS.<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">”</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">--Manal<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Manal Ismail<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, February 15, 2015 10:18 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>WUKnoben;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">internal-cg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Internal-cg] ICANN52<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Just recognized that my response to this thread did not address Wolf-Ulrich's point regarding 'implementation' ..<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I'm not sure whether Wolf-Ulrich is referring to the same session, but I recall that this was also raised as a question by Larry to the co-chairs of the CWG at a GAC session, I believe on Sun. ..<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I agree with Milton this needs further scrutiny, as we need to have a common understanding on what we mean by implementation here and how does this align with NTIA's expectation ..<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">--Manal<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>WUKnoben<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, February 13, 2015 4:52 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>WUKnoben;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">internal-cg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Internal-cg] ICANN52<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">In my assessment to Larry Stricklings remarks I was erroneously referring to the “names and protocols” proposals (see attached). I meant the “<u>numbers</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and protocols” proposals.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">This is owed to a long week of discussions around the matter.<br><br>Best regards<br><br>Wolf-Ulrich<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" title="wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">WUKnoben</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, February 13, 2015 12:10 AM<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">To:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org" title="internal-cg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">internal-cg@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ICANN52<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Dear colleagues,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">my take from the ICANN52 meeting in Singapore re the IANA Stewardship Transition and the future ICG related work:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">see<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><strong><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">statement from Steve Crocker</span></strong>, ICANN Board Chair:<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style=""><<<o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><em>We have received several questions requesting clarification as to how ICANN will handle receipt of the proposal from the ICG and the Work Stream 1 proposal from the CCWG. We hope the following will be helpful.</em><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><em>NTIA is expecting coordinated proposals from both groups. They cannot act on just one. Further, they expect the ICG proposal will take into account the accountability mechanisms proposed by the CCWG. We are heartened by the close coordination between the groups, including liaisons from the ICG to the CCWG. ICANN is expecting to receive both proposals at roughly the same time. When ICANN receives these proposals, we will forward them promptly and without modification to NTIA. As we have previously stated, if we do submit the proposals with an accompanying communication of comments, they will be on points we had already shared with the community during the development of the proposals.</em><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><em>We therefore encourage the groups to continue coordinating closely to ensure ICANN receives the proposals together and is able to provide them to NTIA in a coordinated manner.</em><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><em>With respect to improvements in our accountability, we are definitely open to improvements</em><span style="">.<o:p></o:p></span></div></blockquote><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> >><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> He’s referring to the Names Community Proposal as an output from the CWG-stewardship and the CCWG-accountability.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> Consequently the ICG would have to accomodate the overall timeline accordingly.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><strong><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Larry Strickling, NTIA</span></strong><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Assistant Secretary, in a session on Sunday, 09 Feb., pointed out that NTIA is expecting a common proposal from the three communities (protocols, numbers, names). The proposal as a whole should be ready for implementation.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> From this point of view I wonder whether the names and protocol proposals delivered in the present version reach this level of readiness. I’d like to suggest beginning a related ICG discussion about. this item and the potential consequences.<br><br>Best regards<br><br>Wolf-Ulrich<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Internal-cg mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">Internal-cg@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg</a></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>