<div dir="ltr"><div>DEAR ALL,</div><div>FACT IS FACT AND REALITY IS REALITY</div><div>I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC OF SOME DISTINGUISHED COLLEAGUES WHO TALK ABOUT LENGTHY PROCESS IN CWG.</div><div>YES THE PROCESS IS LENGTHY BUT THAT IS CRUCIAL AND FUNDAMENTAL.</div><div>WHY WE SHOULD HURRY ?</div><div>The issue is complex and the requirements are clear and the matter was reiterated by Larry and confirmed by ICANN Board.</div><div>let us cross fingers and encourage everybody to be cautious and prudent</div><div>Regards</div><div>Kavouss  <br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-02-17 13:27 GMT+01:00 Manal Ismail <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" target="_blank">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">








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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">Thanks Alissa for the reminder and the reference ..<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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[mailto:<a href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in" target="_blank">alissa@cooperw.in</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 16, 2015 7:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Manal Ismail<br>
<b>Cc:</b> WUKnoben; ICG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] ICANN52<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">As Narelle pointed out, we ask about this explicitly in
section IV bullet point 5 in our RFP:<u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">&quot;Description of how long the proposals in Section III
are expected to take to complete, and any intermediate milestones that may
occur before they are completed.&quot;<u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">So we expect the proposal we receive from the CWG to address
this. My understanding is that the bulk of the CWG’s work on RFP section
IV will continue once the group has more clarity on the content of the response
to RFP section III.<u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">Alissa<u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">On Feb 16, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Manal Ismail &lt;<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" target="_blank">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">Further to the below exchange, here is what Larry said regarding
implementation in the<span> </span></span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10.5pt"><a href="http://singapore52.icann.org/en/schedule/sun-iana-stewardship-accountability" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">IANA Stewardship Transition/Enhancing ICANN Accountability
Information Session</span></a></span><span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt"> </span></span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">on
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">“</span>AND I ALSO ASK THAT THE COMMUNITY CONSIDER THAT
GIVEN THE NEED TO DEVELOP, IMPLEMENT, AND TEST THESE STRUCTURES PRIOR TO A
FINAL TRANSITION, CAN THEY GET IT ALL DONE IN A TIME FRAME CONSISTENT WITH THE
EXPECTATIONS OF ALL STAKEHOLDERS?I ASKED TODAY AT A MEETING SOME
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CWG WERE PRESENT WHETHER THERE HAD BEEN ANY DISCUSSION
OR ANY ESTIMATE OF THE LENGTH OF TIME IT MIGHT TAKE TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE
PROPOSALS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT ON THE TABLE.  AND I HAVE TO SAY NO ONE COULD
ANSWER THAT, AND I HOPE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT IMPLEMENTATION HAS TO BE 
FACTORED INTO THE TIME FRAME FOR TRANSITION.  AND IF WHAT&#39;S BEING PROPOSED
IS GOING TO TAKE A YEAR TO IMPLEMENT, WELL, THAT WILL DELAY THE ULTIMATE
TRANSITION OF THE IANA FUNCTIONS.<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">”</span><u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt"> </span></span><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt"><a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span> </span>[<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Manal Ismail<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Sunday, February 15,
2015 10:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span> </span>WUKnoben;<span> </span><a href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">internal-cg@icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [Internal-cg]
ICANN52</span><u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">Just recognized that my response to this thread did not address
Wolf-Ulrich&#39;s point regarding &#39;implementation&#39; ..</span><u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">I&#39;m not sure whether Wolf-Ulrich is referring to the same
session, but I recall that this was also raised as a question by Larry to the
co-chairs of the CWG at a GAC session, I believe on Sun. ..</span><u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">I agree with Milton this needs further scrutiny, as we need to
have a common understanding on what we mean by implementation here and how does
this align with NTIA&#39;s expectation ..</span><u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt"> </span></span><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt"><a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span> </span>[<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>WUKnoben<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Friday, February 13,
2015 4:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span> </span>WUKnoben;<span> </span><a href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">internal-cg@icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [Internal-cg]
ICANN52</span><u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">In my
assessment to Larry Stricklings remarks I was erroneously referring to the
“names and protocols” proposals (see attached). I meant the “<u>numbers</u><span> </span>and protocols” proposals.</span><u></u><u></u></p>

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is owed to a long week of discussions around the matter.<br>
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Best regards<br>
<br>
Wolf-Ulrich</span><u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt"> </span></span><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt"><a title="wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">WUKnoben</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt">Sent:</span></b><span><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt"> </span></span><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt">Friday, February 13,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt">Subject:</span></b><span><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt"> </span></span><span style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt">ICANN52</span><u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">my take
from the ICANN52 meeting in Singapore re the IANA Stewardship Transition and
the future ICG related work:</span><u></u><u></u></p>

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 <li class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">see<span> </span><strong><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">statement from Steve Crocker</span></strong>,
     ICANN Board Chair:</span><u></u><u></u></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal">&lt;&lt; <u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><em>We have received several questions requesting
clarification as to how ICANN will handle receipt of the proposal from the ICG
and the Work Stream 1 proposal from the CCWG.  We hope the following will
be helpful.</em><u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><em>NTIA is expecting coordinated proposals from both
groups.  They cannot act on just one.  Further, they expect the ICG
proposal will take into account the accountability mechanisms proposed by the
CCWG.  We are heartened by the close coordination between the groups,
including liaisons from the ICG to the CCWG. ICANN is expecting to receive both
proposals at roughly the same time.  When ICANN receives these proposals,
we will forward them promptly and without modification to NTIA. As we have
previously stated, if we do submit the proposals with an accompanying
communication of comments, they will be on points we had already shared with
the community during the development of the proposals.</em><u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><em>We therefore encourage the groups to continue
coordinating closely to ensure ICANN receives the proposals together and is
able to provide them to NTIA in a coordinated manner.</em><u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><em>With respect to improvements in our accountability, we
are definitely open to improvements</em>.<u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">   
He’s referring to the Names Community Proposal as an output from the
CWG-stewardship and the CCWG-accountability.</span><u></u><u></u></p>

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Consequently the ICG would have to accomodate the overall timeline accordingly.</span><u></u><u></u></p>

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 <li class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Larry Strickling, NTIA</span></strong><span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Assistant Secretary, in a
     session on Sunday, 09 Feb., pointed out that NTIA is expecting a common
     proposal from the three communities (protocols, numbers, names). The
     proposal as a whole should be ready for implementation.</span><u></u><u></u></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">   
>From this point of view I wonder whether the names and protocol proposals
delivered in the present version reach this level of readiness. I’d like
to suggest beginning a related ICG discussion about. this item and the
potential consequences.<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
<br>
Wolf-Ulrich</span><u></u><u></u></p>

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