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Colleagues:<br>
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I believe that the consensus that emerged in the room had included
providing the option to communities to monitor the comments
themselves, but in such case we would ask them to confirm this in
writing. I think all were agreed that we should not decide the
"value" of comments addressed to community proposals as that was
beyond our remit, though we could use those comments to help
formulate our own questions...<br>
<br>
Joe <br>
<br>
On 2/23/2015 5:16 AM, Manal Ismail wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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thanks Mr. Arasteh ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So
I take this as you'd rather keep your text and not go for
what Mary suggested based on Joe's email, right?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Kind
regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">--Manal
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Kavouss Arasteh
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 23, 2015 12:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Manal Ismail<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mary Uduma; Coordination Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Steps for handling ICG
forum comments ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Manal,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I sincerely appreciate-your valuable
works.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">However, the changes that I made were the
minimum that
should be taken into account .<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I do not mind about other issues(
superfluous text ) .<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kavouss<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 23 Feb 2015, at 08:13, Manal Ismail <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Many
thanks Mary for the constructive suggestion ..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Happy
to add it .. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
reason I didn't was that I assumed that a reply of any
written form (not necessarily a statement) would be
considered a commitment ..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear
Mr. Arasteh .. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Would
this address your concern?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Kind
Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">--Manal</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Mary Uduma [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com">mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 23, 2015 2:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Manal Ismail; Kavouss Arasteh<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Coordination Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Steps for handling
ICG forum comments ..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black">Thank you Kavouss and Manal.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black">I think what was omitted in Joe's
formulations as reproduced by
Manal is;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black">" </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:#CD232C">In the case of the latter we would
ask them to provide a
statement to that effect. In either case we will not
filter the messages".</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black">If the provision of a statement from
the OC is added to Manal's
opening statement, I think it would take care of
Kavuoss' comments.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black">My comments are as attached.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black">Mary Uduma</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
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Sunday, February 22, 2015 8:34
PM, Manal Ismail <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Forwarded
Message -----</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
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Mr. Arasteh ..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Many
thanks for your comments
which matches my initial suggestion ..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Yet
I thought a different way
forward was agreed at the meeting as a
compromise, which was helpfully
summarized by Joe in his email to the
list (attached for your convenience)
..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Anyway,
as mentioned earlier,
I’m flexible with either ..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Kind
Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">--Manal</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
Kavouss Arasteh [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 22,
2015 9:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Manal Ismail<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Daniel Karrenberg;
Coordination Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg]
Steps for handling ICG forum
comments ..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black">Dear Manal,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black">Thank you very much
for the good work that was done.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black">I was identified to
be part of small group on the
matter.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black">There are some
inconsistencies that I HAVE
EDITED.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black">Moreover, there are
overlapping and superflous
paragraphs that
while is harmless but do not
seem necessary.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black">However, I have not
touched that .</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
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revision marks </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black">Kavouss </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black">2015-02-22 16:28
GMT+01:00 Manal Ismail <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg"
target="_blank">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>>:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black">Many thanks Daniel
for your response and your
cooperation ..<br>
In case of no other comments,
appreciate if our chair and
co-chairs can<br>
put this into action ..<br>
<br>
Kind Regards<br>
</span><span
class="yiv0917716912hoenzb"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:#888888">--Manal</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Daniel Karrenberg
[mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:daniel.karrenberg@ripe.net"
target="_blank">daniel.karrenberg@ripe.net</a>]<br>
Sent: Friday, February 20,
2015 2:23 PM<br>
To: Manal Ismail; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org"
target="_blank">internal-cg@icann.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Internal-cg]
Steps for handling ICG forum
comments ..<br>
<br>
On 17.02.15 13:06 , Manal
Ismail wrote:<br>
> Dear All ..<br>
><br>
> Please find attached
stepsfor handling community
comments received on<br>
> ICG Forum..<br>
><br>
> I hope this
accuratelyreflectsthe
discussion we had in
Singapore ..<br>
><br>
> I have createda new
document as it describes a
different approach and<br>
> was too messy intrack
changes ..<br>
><br>
> The old draft is still
on Dropbox, if you wishto
reference..<br>
><br>
> I have to clarify that
this has not been discussed
yet among the<br>
> smaller group agreed in
Singapore, but is being
shared for the sake of<br>
time ..<br>
><br>
> Hope to have this
settled soon ..<br>
><br>
> Kind Regards<br>
><br>
> --Manal<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Manal,<br>
<br>
<br>
thank you very much for
driving this along.<br>
<br>
"Handling community comments
submitted to the ICG Forum
Discussion Draft<br>
based on Singapore Meeting<br>
11 February 2015 - V.1"<br>
<br>
is excellent and I recommend
that we adopt it.<br>
<br>
Daniel<br>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;
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Lynn and thanks Joseph
.. This is extremely helpful ..</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Kind
Regards</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">--Manal</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">-----Original
Message-----</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">From:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">[<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
On Behalf Of joseph alhadeff</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Sent:
Saturday, February 07, 2015 11:45 AM</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">To:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org">internal-cg@icann.org</a></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Subject:
Re: [Internal-cg] Building on
Commonalities .. [was:
Handling</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">process
complaints]</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">By
way of clarification and
as an input input into this
discussion, I</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">thought
I'd provide my suggestions in writing.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">1.
Provide an automated
receipt message for each comment
filed. I</span><span
style="font-family:
"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">would
suggest that the automated receipt
include our process
related to</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">comments
so that there is nether false
expectation nor
misunderstanding.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">2.
We provide each community with the
option of receiving
forwarded</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">messages
or allowing them to self monitor the
forum. In the
case of the</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">latter
we would ask them to provide a
statement to that effect. In</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">either
case we will not filter the messages.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">3.
On a periodic basis, the Secretariat
will create a summary
digest of</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">comments
received by subject (participation,
consensus, specific</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">element,
etc) and we will request that
communities to whom the
comments</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">have
been addressed post any summary
updates related to their
responses</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">or
how they have dealt with the comments
in general or by comment</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">subject
which they find appropriate.</span><span
style="font-family:
"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">4.
Our internal process. We will review
comments
received and where we</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">believe
that they require specific response or
follow up, ICG will</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">create
and send specific questions to the
relevant community
(ies).</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Hope
this helps...</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Joe</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">On
2/6/2015 6:50 PM, Lynn St.Amour wrote:</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>
Manal,</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>
first, GREAT job as usual!</span><span
style="font-family:
"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>
And, both you and Daniel have laid
this out quite
clearly. Thank you</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">both.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>
I support many of Daniel's points
(just as you did), in fact,
all but</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">one.
I do have concerns about "No
acknowledgements. No
forwarding" for</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">the
reasons you state. It does not feel
responsive enough.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>
I would support a path that
acknowledged and forwarded any
comments</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">the
ICG forum received to the appropriate
OC - with a short note
re our</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">expectations
(captured largely in your earlier
note, and worded in
a way</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">that
did not trigger our common fears of
incorrect
impressions). It</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">could
also reaffirm the role of the OC's and
the ICG - this will
also be</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">instructional
for anyone else contemplating a note
to the ICG.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>
I also see this more as an Operating
Practice than a
Procedure per se.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>
If we go this way, I am happy to work
with Manal (and others)
on text.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>
Best all,</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>
Lynn</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>
On Feb 5, 2015, at 2:31 AM, "Manal
Ismail" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>>
wrote:</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
Comments, short ones :), inline below
..</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
Kind Regards</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
--Manal</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
-----Original Message-----</span><span
style="font-family:
"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Daniel
Karrenberg</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:52
AM</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
To: Alissa Cooper</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
Cc: ICG</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Building on
Commonalities ..
[was: </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
Handling process complaints]</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
On 2.02.15 23:00 , Alissa Cooper
wrote:</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>>
Jean-Jacques,</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>>
... And I think it would be great to
continue this
discussion on the</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>>
mailing list so
that it need not occupy much time
during the F2F</span><span
style="font-family:
"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
meeting. ...</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
After the discussion so far, my
proposal remains as is:</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
avoid any impression that we run a
complaints procedure
or an appeals</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
process.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
[MI]: Agree ..</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
No procedure.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
[MI]: Agree .. We don't necessarily
need a procedure, per
se, but at </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
least we need common agreement on how
to proceed ..</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
No acknowledgements. No forwarding.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
[MI]: Let me try to go down this path,
then what? Do
nothing? Then </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
why did we agree to receive comments
directly from the community
at </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
the first place? Do something else?
Fair enough, what is
it?</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
Agree on posing specific questions
using our normal
process.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">
<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
[MI]: I fully agree .. Each ICG member
can pose questions
to the </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
relevant OC .. and I support Alissa's
proposal, to gather
all ICG </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
</span><span
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questions and compile one list (union
of all) for each
relevant OC ..</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <br>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
ICG questions and public comments are
different and not
mutually </span><span
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</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
exclusive processes, as ICG questions
may or may not have
to with </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>>
public comments ..</span><span
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color:black"> <br>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">>></span><span
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color:black"> <br>
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It appears to me that we should
address this first. It
makes no sense</span><span
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going into details
about a specific procedure before we
definitely </span><span
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"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
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agree to have one.</span><span
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[MI]: Definitely .. I fully agree ..</span><span
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[MI]: I think, by now, both our views
are clear :) ..
Let's hear </span><span
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other colleagues then try to reach an
ICG consensus view
and a way </span><span
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forward tomorrow at the meeting ..</span><span
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