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I would agree on a slow preparation related to our exercise of
socializing the final draft - that will require effort and
forethought. PR in the interim should be limited to thinking of
sending our existing updates through other channels; if ICANN has
suggestions fine, but this does not rise to any level of formality
or partnership.... <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Sorry, but I don’t see the
need for this at all.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I see it as a potential
diversion from our substantive work and a
time-consuming move into PR. As another matter,
we’ve just detached our Secretariat from ICANN and
now we get deeply enmeshed into their
communications team? </span></p>
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<div>Its shouldn't consume ICG time as a small group or a
volunteer(s) can work on it and present the final outcome
to ICG. PR is not part of our new secretariat mandate.<br>
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<div>ICANN still provides ICG with support ( logistics,
travel, ...etc ), not sure why PR could not be part of
that as long the ICG determines the content of such
out-reach messages and approve the end product.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>We might need some kind of
better public outreach when we have assembled
three finalized proposals and we are seeking
public comment. Until then, I do not understand
the need. Martin mentioned “registries who are not
involved in the ICANN process.” It is a clearly
defined part of this process that it is the task
of the operational communities, in this case
names, to involve all relevant groups in the
development of the proposal. It is not our job to
do so. So perhaps ICANN PR can offer their
services to the CWG.
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<div>Agree, we will need outreach when we assemble the final
proposal but we also need it through the evaluation
process, better to plan/start early while we have less
pressure now.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I am shaking my head in
disbelief about this, really. Simple explanations
of the role of the ICG are not the primary problem
the transition faces right now. It is not even a
secondary problem, or a tertiary one. Let’s be
realistic. The problem has to do with achieving
consensus among a complex set of interest groups
around management of the names root. The idea that
we are going to advance that process with slick
infographics about us strikes me as seriously
misguided, almost narcissistic.</span></p>
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<div>I know and others as well clearly the challenges ahead
of us as ICG, the current names debate and challenges is
clear indication of task complexity in the final proposal
assembly.<br>
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That's being said, its our role to ensure that our processes
and procedures are transparent and clear to the wider
internet community, this is the objective Not resolving ICG
issues complexity by a slick infograph !! <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>--MM</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mohamed El Bashir<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 4, 2015 3:15
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<b>To:</b> ICANN Internal<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Internal-cg] ICG future
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<p class="MsoNormal">The Chairs had
2 meetings with ICANN's
communications team in Los Angeles
and Singapore, they offered to
support ICG in planning and
developingneed inforgraphics,
animation videos and media
messages .</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As ICG
progressing in the proposal
evaluations it might be useful to
explain some of our important
processes to public in clear visual
presentation, if we decided to
accept ICANN support in this, its
communications team will develop
those infographs based on ICG
guidance, review and approval. the
infograhs and other produced media
can be published in ICG web site.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please advice if we
can proceed on this approach and
develop some infographs with ICANN
support.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If yes, what
issues/topics you think we should focus
on ( e.g proposals evaluation/assessment
process, the time line, .....etc ).</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mohamed</p>
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