<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks Liz. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think the California rules give leave to the parties to apply for permission to exceed the page limit. Whether we do that here is for discussion. The process for applying to exceed the page limit would probably a pretty high bar - and avoid a criticism that we are unfairly curtailing the ability of anyone to make a case. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Kurt</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 8, 2020, at 10:44 PM, Elizabeth Le <<a href="mailto:elizabeth.le@icann.org" class="">elizabeth.le@icann.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Dear IRP-IOT members,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">On the last call, there was a question raised about page limits. We had some research done on this issue. Below is some information to help inform an IRP-IOT recommendation:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">The Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, California Rules of Civil Procedure, the ICC’s Arbitration Rules, and the ICDR Arbitration Rules do not have page limit guidance. As a result, we expanded our search to include the Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure, the California Rules of Court, and the Central District of California’s Local Rules. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure (FRAP)</span></u><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">A principal brief may not exceed 30 pages unless it contains no more than 13,000 words; a reply brief may not exceed 15 pages unless it contains no more than 6,500 words. (FRAP 32(a)(7))<o:p class=""></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Amicus brief must not exceed 2,600 words (FRAP 29(a)(b)(4))<o:p class=""></o:p></span></li></ul><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">California Rules of Court (CRC)</span></u><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><i class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Civil Rules</span></i><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">No opening or responding memorandum may exceed 15 pages, except in a summary judgment or summary adjudication motion. (CRC 3.1113(d))<o:p class=""></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">In a summary judgment or summary adjudication motion, no opening or responding memorandum may exceed 20 pages (CRC 3.1113(d))<o:p class=""></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">No reply or closing memorandum may exceed 10 pages (CRC 3.1113(d))<o:p class=""></o:p></span></li></ul><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><i class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Appellate Rules</span></i><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Briefs by parties and amicus curiae produced on a computer must not exceed 14,000 words, including footnotes. (CRC 8.204(c)(1))<o:p class=""></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Briefs by parties and amicus curiae produced on a typewriter must not exceed 50 pages. (CRC 8.204(c)(2))<o:p class=""></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">A combined brief in an appeal must not exceed 28,000 words if produced on a computer or 100 pages if produced on a typewriter. (CRC 8.204(c)(5))<o:p class=""></o:p></span></li></ul><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">A petition for rehearing or an answer to a petition for rehearing produced on a computer must not exceed 7,000 words, including footnotes. A petition or answer produced on a typewriter must not exceed 25 pages. (CRC 8.204(c)(5))<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Central District of California Local Rules:</span></u><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">No memorandum of points and authorities, pre-trial brief, trial brief, or post-trial brief shall exceed 25 pages, excluding indices and exhibits, unless permitted by order of the judge. (L.R. 11-6)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></li></ul><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Supplemental memorandum may not exceed five pages in length. (L.R. 37-2.3)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></li></ul><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Best regards,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Liz<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 6pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><u class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></u></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Elizabeth D. 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