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<p class="MsoNormal">We’re also going to keep looking for additional guidance or rules that might be in practice on consolidated page limits amongst parties that are asserting the same violation, as that was part of the conversation that opened this line of
 inquiry.  If you recall, there is a limitation currently drafted into the Supplementary Procedures that amongst all persons joined as claimants there is a collective 25-page limitation, and we are still looking for further external guidance on that issue.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sam<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">IOT <iot-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Susan Payne <susan.payne@valideus.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 10:38 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Liz Le <elizabeth.le@icann.org>, "iot@icann.org" <iot@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [IOT] Page limitation issue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks Liz</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Susan Payne<br>
</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Head of Legal Policy<br>
<b>Valideus</b><br>
D: +44 (0) 20 7421 8262<br>
E: <a href="mailto:susan.payne@valideus.com">susan.payne@valideus.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> IOT <iot-bounces@icann.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>
Elizabeth Le<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 09 June 2020 06:44<br>
<b>To:</b> iot@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [IOT] Page limitation issue<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear IRP-IOT members,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">On the last call, there was a question raised about page limits. We had some research done on this issue. Below is some information to help inform an IRP-IOT recommendation:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, California Rules of Civil Procedure, the ICC’s Arbitration Rules, and the ICDR Arbitration Rules do not have page limit guidance.  As a result, we expanded
 our search to include the Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure, the California Rules of Court, and the Central District of California’s Local Rules. 
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure (FRAP)</span></u><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">A principal brief may not exceed 30 pages unless it contains no more than 13,000 words; a reply brief may not exceed 15 pages unless it
 contains no more than 6,500 words. (FRAP 32(a)(7))</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Amicus brief must not exceed 2,600 words (FRAP 29(a)(b)(4))</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">California Rules of Court (CRC)</span></u><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><i><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Civil Rules</span></i><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">:
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">No opening or responding memorandum may exceed 15 pages, except in a summary judgment or summary adjudication motion. (CRC 3.1113(d))</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">In a summary judgment or summary adjudication motion, no opening or responding memorandum may exceed 20 pages (CRC 3.1113(d))</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">No reply or closing memorandum may exceed 10 pages (CRC 3.1113(d))</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph"><i><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Appellate Rules</span></i><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">:
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Briefs by parties and amicus curiae produced on a computer must not exceed 14,000 words, including footnotes. (CRC 8.204(c)(1))</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Briefs by parties and amicus curiae produced on a typewriter must not exceed 50 pages. (CRC 8.204(c)(2))</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">A combined brief in an appeal must not exceed 28,000 words if produced on a computer or 100 pages if produced on a typewriter. (CRC 8.204(c)(5))</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">A petition for rehearing or an answer to a petition for rehearing produced on a computer must not exceed 7,000 words, including footnotes. A petition or answer produced on a typewriter must not
 exceed 25 pages. (CRC 8.204(c)(5))</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Central District of California Local Rules:</span></u><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">No memorandum of points and authorities, pre-trial brief, trial brief, or post-trial brief shall exceed 25 pages, excluding indices and
 exhibits, unless permitted by order of the judge. (L.R. 11-6)</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Supplemental memorandum may not exceed five pages in length. (L.R. 37-2.3)</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Best regards, </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Liz</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Elizabeth D. Le</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Associate General Counsel, ICANN</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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