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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-IE link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Apologies for having been unable to attend the meeting. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Having reviewed the notes below and the AC recording of the meeting, I have a few issues / questions that will be useful to review.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I have attached a series of comments / questions to the PTI Implementation plan that would be useful to understand / clarify.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It seems to me that my comments / questions are largely consistent with those raised by others during the course of the call / meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Confirm against draft PTI Bylaws that PTI president position will be ICANN employee and ICANN board will appoint directors of PTI board. (ICANN)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Is the PTI President, the same as the senior manager of the current IANA function? Currently, this is Elise Gerlich and that was my understanding. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It does not seem to me that this President necessarily needs to be an ICANN employee. It MAY be an ICANN employee but it does not seem to me that it MUST be an ICANN employee.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Provide additional detail for rationale for ICANN's recommendation for seconding the IANA staff (ICANN)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>On the secondment point, it was rationalised previously that there was a desire to utilise secondment in order to preserve employment conditions. We then discussed the possibility of a contractual enhancement of employment conditions within PTI i.e. the addressing the gap by contractual enhancement. Now, assuming this (secondment) was agreed, what is then required is a rationalisation for such a decision. Continuity of employment conditions seems to be clearly desirable, the key point is why do we choose secondment over contractual enhancement? What are the pros & cons / what is the rationalisation for this choice?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Will secondment be the ongoing <i>modus operandi</i>? If so, why is this required? It too needs to be separately rationalised as it is a substantially different concept to the grandfathering point. The point about two different classes of employees is not sufficiently convincing. A “contractual equivalent” set of employment conditions could be put in place in PTI in order to resolve this issue. This concern or requirement for further rationalisation is in agreement / consistent with the point made by Avri during Call #10.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>There seem to be some connected issues with the PTI Bylaws which need to be thought about e.g. Bylaws deal with compensation of officers of PTI but if (PTI) officers are seconded from ICANN, their compensation will, in effect, be decided by ICANN.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Provide additional rationale around role of PTI president, and why the president is also seconded from ICANN (ICANN)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Is the PTI President, the same as the senior manager of the current IANA function? Currently, this is Elise Gerlich and that was my understanding.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Review the figure 2.ii within the PTI Implementation Approach document for better clarity<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Look at the Helsinki schedule and open a doodle poll before submitting the session request (ICANN)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Review PTI implementation approach document along with the various rationale documents on the next call<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>This is a good idea. I assume we mean the next IOTF call although it is noteworthy that the next call will be a meeting of the full CWG on Thursday June 2<sup>nd</sup>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Yuko Green [mailto:yuko.green@icann.org] <br><b>Sent:</b> 25 May 2016 22:14<br><b>To:</b> iotf@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [IOTF] IOTF Call #10 - Meeting Notes (25 May 2016 @ 16:00 UTC)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Dear members of the IOTF,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Please see below the meeting notes and chat history from today’s IOTF call. The presentation material, transcript, audio and AC room recordings are now posted at <a href="https://www.icann.org/stewardship-implementation">https://www.icann.org/stewardship-implementation</a> under “Meetings & Work Sessions” section. The transcript will be made available within the next few days.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>*** Meeting Notes ***<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Implementation Oversight Task Force (ITOF) call #10<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>25 May 2016 @ 16:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Please note that this meeting is being recorded. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>To mute or Unmute, select *6 (Star-Six)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>If you would like to review the last call(s), the recordings and presentation materials are posted publicly here: <a href="https://www.icann.org/stewardship-implementation">https://www.icann.org/stewardship-implementation</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span lang=EN-US>Agenda:<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:54.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-36.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Opening Remarks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:54.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-36.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Implementation Items<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-36.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>PTI Implementation Approach<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:54.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-36.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>AOB<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-36.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Next step on responding back to Sidley on PTI formation documents<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-36.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>RZERC Status Update<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-36.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>IANA IPR Status Update <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-36.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Helsinki<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:54.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-36.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Closing Remarks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span lang=EN-US>Notes:<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Apologies: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Donna Austin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Jonathan Robinson <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>James Gannon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span lang=EN-US>Action Items:<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Confirm against draft PTI Bylaws that PTI president position will be ICANN employee and ICANN board will appoint directors of PTI board. (ICANN)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Provide additional detail for rationale for ICANN's recommendation for seconding the IANA staff (ICANN)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Provide additional rationale around role of PTI president, and why the president is also seconded from ICANN (ICANN)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Review the figure 2.ii within the PTI Implementation Approach document for better clarity<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Look at the Helsinki schedule and open a doodle poll before submitting the session request (ICANN)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Review PTI implementation approach document along with the various rationale documents on the next call<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>***Chat History***<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Yuko Green: Hello all, welcome to the IOTF call #10!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Yuko Green: Who may be 8753?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Yuko Green: It's the top of the hour, but we'll give a couple more minutes for people to join us.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Lise Fuhr: The connection is very bad<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Lise Fuhr: It might be only mine<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Akram: yes<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Chuck Gomes: Can hear fine<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Lise Fuhr: I will reconnect<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Lise Fuhr 2: All good now<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Lise Fuhr 2: yes<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Russ Housley: I worry that the transfer of the IANA trademark to the IETF Trust will indeed spark a mjor debate over the name.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: could we have scroll control please<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Yuko Green: Hi Matthew, i just gave everybody a scrolling control<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: do we specify what kind requirements will be required of the ICANN staff that will be slected for the Board<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: will the president be one of the Board members<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): very faint <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: ok thanks <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Lise Fuhr 2: We talked about a legal memo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: it would be good to know if there are specific profiles for the PTI Board members that will be selected from ICANN staff<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Avri Doria: apologies for being late, my machine hung the first time i tired and had to reboot.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: + 1 Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Lise Fuhr 2: Isn't that a legal memo @alan ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: it should be a legal memo - it is more than just pluses and mnuses<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Alan Greenberg: AS you wish. I often fine :legal memos" difficult to read, and in this case, some of the major issues are not legal but social.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Yuko Green: Please see the legal memo posted at <a href="https://www.icann.org/uploads/iana_work_session_asset/attachment/237/PTI_Staffing.pdf">https://www.icann.org/uploads/iana_work_session_asset/attachment/237/PTI_Staffing.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: true the social issues are key<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Alan Greenberg: The legal terms we saw said there was no difficulty. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Chuck Gomes: Agree with Lisa.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: + 1 Lise - we need a very clear justification for the decision<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Chuck Gomes: We need a self-contained document that explains the approach, pros and cons, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Lise Fuhr 2: Yes it should be a separate doc<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: + 1 Avri on President role<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Alan Greenberg: Had to leave for a bit. Back now.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: very good question on future IANA hires<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Lise Fuhr 2: Might be best to have same conditions for also new employees<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Lise Fuhr 2: @Xavier sounds logical<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Alan Greenberg: I strongly support ongoing secondment. ANd a single class of employee is one of the rationales.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Avri Doria: I do not support ongoig secondment. it destroy part of logic behind having a PTI as a sperate entity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Avri Doria: a clear point was already made that through contact they could give employee the same conditions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: I share the same concern as Avri. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Avri Doria: so they would not be seperate classes in any know sense of class separation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: I thought that the original intent was that the IANA department would "move" to PTI<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: + 1 Chuck - this needs to be better clarified<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Yuko Green: I do have some comments on the document on realisation of separability of the shared services that ICANN will provide and how that will be captured in the inter company agreement (for example they key management facilities) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Yuko Green: That was the comment from James Gannon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: I suppose the inter company contract will be essential to outlining how assets and resources would be treated iun the case of separation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: + 1 Akram<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Alan Greenberg: I have a hard staff on the hour.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Alan Greenberg: hard STOP<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: thanks for seeking a time slot - I think it is a good idea to hold a session<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Lise Fuhr 2: I also need to leave at the top of the hour<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Russ Housley: I have not seen an announcement for next Tuesday<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Yuko Green: Doodle poll: <a href="http://doodle.com/poll/z4a3pevpssgmy738">http://doodle.com/poll/z4a3pevpssgmy738</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Chuck Gomes: Thanks all<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): Thanks everyone// another good call... talk soon \<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>matthew shears: thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Allan MacGillivray: Thanks all!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): Bye<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Yuko Green: Russ, I'll forward to you again<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Yuko Green<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Strategic Programs Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Global Domains Division<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Mobile: +1 310 745 1517<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>E-mail: <a href="mailto:yuko.green@icann.org"><span style='color:blue'>yuko.green@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.icann.org/"><span style='color:blue'>www.icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>