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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Brian Winterfeldt
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'listserv@ipconstituency.org' <listserv@ipconstituency.org>; 'haforrestesq@gmail.com' <haforrestesq@gmail.com>; 'icannlists@winston.com' <icannlists@winston.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran@winterfeldt.law>; Phillip Marano <Phil@Winterfeldt.law>; Griffin Barnett <Griffin@Winterfeldt.law><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [IPC Discussion List] Fwd: [Ext] Re: Attendance, AC recording and AC chat / GNSO Council Drafting Team Charter ICANN Procedure for Handling Whois Conflicts / Wednesday, 10 January 2018 at 22:00 UTC<br>
<b>Importance:</b> High<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dear Heather and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">With apologies for not weighing in on the call, we support the charter as edited, which narrows the scope to focus on procedure and not policy. We will want to keep a close
watch on the progress of the group, but the edits to the charter appropriately addressed our concerns.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We also support you making the motion as Council Chair, but would ask that you make it clear that you are making the motion as Chair to facilitate progress and compromise.
We think it is important to avoid the optics that the IPC sponsored this motion.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:listserv@ipconstituency.simplelists.com">listserv@ipconstituency.simplelists.com</a> [<a href="mailto:listserv@ipconstituency.simplelists.com">mailto:listserv@ipconstituency.simplelists.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Heather Forrest<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 12, 2018 2:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul McGrady <<a href="mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com">policy@paulmcgrady.com</a>>; IPC Discussion List <<a href="mailto:listserv@ipconstituency.org">listserv@ipconstituency.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [IPC Discussion List] Fwd: [Ext] Re: Attendance, AC recording and AC chat / GNSO Council Drafting Team Charter ICANN Procedure for Handling Whois Conflicts / Wednesday, 10 January 2018 at 22:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear colleagues (especially our WHOIS experts),<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Status update on WHOIS Conflicts Procedure charter drafting in the attached clean draft, which integrates the comments made by Bradley Silver (which, happily, were in line with RrSG comments).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. Can IPC support this document?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. Is IPC opposed to me being the maker of the motion as Council Chair? (I'm trying to assume a leadership role in bringing everyone together on this one in a reasonably harmonious way, but I know we object in principle to the formation
of this new group given our participation in the previous IAG, so I can fully appreciate objections, if there are any.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: <b>Heather Forrest</b> <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 6:35 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [Ext] Re: Attendance, AC recording and AC chat / GNSO Council Drafting Team Charter ICANN Procedure for Handling Whois Conflicts / Wednesday, 10 January 2018 at 22:00 UTC<br>
To: Steve Chan <<a href="mailto:steve.chan@icann.org">steve.chan@icann.org</a>><br>
Cc: Julie Bisland <<a href="mailto:julie.bisland@icann.org">julie.bisland@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>>, Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>,
Michele Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>>, Pam Little <<a href="mailto:pam.little@alibaba-inc.com">pam.little@alibaba-inc.com</a>>, Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>>, Paul McGrady <<a href="mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com">policy@paulmcgrady.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear WHOIS Conflicts charter drafting team,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As agreed in our call of 10 January, Marika and I have distilled the points raised by Stephanie, RrSG and IPC into the attached clean document. For easier reading, rather than send a messy redline, I've highlighted in yellow the relevant
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There remains one outstanding point, which is staff support. We need to decide whether it should be GNSO Policy or GDD to support this effort.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are one week away from the January Council document deadline. If we are to make that deadline, we must get the document circulated to SGs/Cs and any tinkering done by next Friday 20th. If we're not at a point of agreement by next Friday,
I'll exercise my discretion to hold the motion until February. As we've said on other occasions, and I see no reason to be inconsistent now, this matter is too important to the GNSO community to duke it out in a vote. Let's be sure to reach agreement before
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<p class="MsoNormal">With best wishes to all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 9:59 AM, Steve Chan <<a href="mailto:steve.chan@icann.org" target="_blank">steve.chan@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Here are the informal notes that staff captured during the meeting as well. There are some AC chat contributions included in the notes, but you may
want to review the full chat transcript and/or the recording for better context.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">ACTION: Marika, Heather to revise draft charter, particularly scope and composition section in line with input received. Try to have draft before end of week.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">ACTION: Prepare draft of motion for upcoming meeting</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">--RrSG - General support for keeping it simple. Composition like a group like the GNSO Review.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">-- Keep it narrow, on process and procedure, not on policy.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">-- Any review of policy should take place in a PDP, though it could identify policy issues to be referred to a PDP for resolution.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">-- More support for a light and simple scope</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">-- Should try to guard against reaching a similar conclusion of IAG (e.g., no solution).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">-- User rights - could a user request an exemption for publication of their data in Whois</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">-- The scope of the this DT is only for the charter, not the substance</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">-- Review of the procedure - no timeline available now. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">-- Can review of the implementation be part of the scope? Currently, focuses on public comment received. Up to DT to determine if it could be included. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Pam Little: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">"The proposal does not establish expectations for the timeline of a review.The apparent expectation that contracted parties continue to comply with WHOIS requirements while the review is ongoing is doubly problematic when paired with the fact that the Procedure does not provide a timeline by which such review will occur. ICANN’s handling of the Registry Service Evaluation Request Process (RSEP) has been notoriously slow despite a clear timeline set in the consensus policy establishing a reasonable timeline for review to occur. The Procedure should include a similarly expedited timeline for granting an initial waiver of enforcement, given legal compliance risks to contracted parties if conflicts are drawn out."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Pam Little: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">This was the comment by RySG/RrSG</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">-- Current scope would pick up Pam's concern, by focusing on public comment.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">-- Previous comments may not have identified feasible triggers, so limiting to existing comments could be problematic.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">-- GNSO Review: Each SG/C provides a primary and alternate member. Observers are welcome (no limit), but concensus limited to members.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">-- Preliminary support from Pam.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Pam Little: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Although one RrSG member proposed (preferred) CCWG model but that seems to be a minority view</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Marika Konings: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">you may need to specify, like for the SSC charter what that breaks down to so that there is no duplication on the NCPH between Cs & SGs on that side?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">-- It may be helpful to be specific about ow allocations are done (SG and/or C). See Option 4.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Pam Little: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">When we consider composition, I think we should keep in mind that the contracted parties are those who will be directed impacted this so they should not have less reps than other groups.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Marika Konings: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">appointments per SG could ensure parity, while at the same time allowing SGs on the NCPH to factor in the need for each C to have representation?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Marika Konings: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">For example, 3 members per SG?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">-- Could be "up to" 3 members rather than requiring 3, but it may be good to have a minimum.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="color:black">Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 2:54 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Julie Bisland <<a href="mailto:julie.bisland@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.bisland@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>>, icannlists <<a href="mailto:icannlists@winston.com" target="_blank">icannlists@winston.com</a>>,
Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>, Michele Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>>, Pam Little <<a href="mailto:pam.little@alibaba-inc.com" target="_blank">pam.little@alibaba-inc.com</a>>,
Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>, Steve Chan <<a href="mailto:steve.chan@icann.org" target="_blank">steve.chan@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Ext] Re: Attendance, AC recording and AC chat / GNSO Council Drafting Team Charter ICANN Procedure for Handling Whois Conflicts / Wednesday, 10 January 2018 at 22:00 UTC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Just a quick note so everyone has a clear view of current status. We were missing Keith, Paul and Michele on the call, but Stephanie, Pam and I forged ahead and commented on the
two big issues - scope and composition. Next steps:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Marika and I will work on a next version strawman that captures the RrSG, NCSG and IPC inputs, circulating to the group by close Friday LA time. That then gives us all ONE WEEK to circulate within our respective SGs/Cs in order to edit as needed and be ready
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Marika and staff team to draft motion for inclusion in Council agenda in time for review by the group and document deadline<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Julie Bisland <<a href="mailto:julie.bisland@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.bisland@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Please find attached the AC chat and below the AC recording and attendance of the GNSO Council Drafting Team Charter ICANN Procedure for Handling Whois
Conflicts held on </span>Wednesday, 10 January 2018 at 22:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span>R<span style="color:black">ecording</span></b><span style="color:black">:</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="color:black">Attendance</span></b><span style="color:black">: Heather Forrest, Stephane Perrin, Pam Little</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="color:black">Apology</span></b><span style="color:black">: Michele Neylon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="DA" style="color:black">Staff:</span></b><span lang="DA" style="color:black"> Marika Konings, Steve Chan, Julie Bisland</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="DA" style="color:black">Thank you.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="DA" style="color:black">Kind regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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