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<DIV>Thanks very much, Mikey! I’m glad that I can skip hearing to the mp3
record.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">As I’m a
member of the PDP WG on translation and transliteration of contact info I would
also be happy if additional input could be given by the ISPCP
members.<BR><BR>Best regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mike@haven2.com
href="mailto:mike@haven2.com">Mike O'Connor</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 27, 2014 5:29 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=ispcp@icann.org
href="mailto:ispcp@icann.org">ispcp@icann.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [ispcp] Notes from today's GNSO Council
call</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>hi
all,
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>here are my notes from the Council call today. disclaimer — these are
my notes and may contain errors of fact or understanding. if something in
here makes you unhappy, check with me or the person before taking extreme
action. :-)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>also note that item 6 and item 4 were reversed on the agenda, which is why
these notes are not in strictest numeric sequence.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>mikey</DIV>
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<P>Council call - 27-Feb 2014 </P>
<UL>
<LI>
<P><SPAN id=show1_1 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN
id=hide1_1 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Item 1: Administrative matters (10 mins)
</P>
<UL id=fold1_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>1.1 Roll Call
<LI><SPAN id=show1_1_1 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_1_1 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> 1.2 Statement of interest
updates
<UL id=fold1_1_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>Maria Farrell
<LI><A
href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Maria+Farrell+SOI"
target=_blank><SPAN class=l>~</SPAN>
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Maria+Farrell+SOI </A></LI></UL>
<LI>1.3 Review/amend agenda
<LI><SPAN id=show1_1_2 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_1_2 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> 1.4. Note the status of minutes
for the previous Council meeting per the GNSO Operating Procedures:
<UL id=fold1_1_2 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>Minutes of the GNSO Council meetings 23 January 2014 were posted as
approved on 17 February 2014. </LI></UL></LI></UL>
<P><SPAN id=show1_2 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN
id=hide1_2 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Item 2: Opening Remarks / Review of
Projects & Action List (10 mins) </P>
<UL id=fold1_2 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>Review focus areas and provide updates on specific key themes / topics
<LI>Include review of Projects List and Action List.
<LI><SPAN id=show1_2_1 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_2_1 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Comments or questions arising.
<UL id=fold1_2_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>Action: note a diary entry to review the list prior to each meeting -
and forward to the ISPCP list </LI></UL></LI></UL>
<P>Item 3: Consent agenda (0 mins) </P>
<P><SPAN id=show1_3 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN
id=hide1_3 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Item 4: UPDATE & DISCUSSION – GNSO
Engagement with the work of the ICANN Strategy Panels (15 mins) </P>
<UL id=fold1_3 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P><SPAN id=show1_3_1 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_3_1 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Here the Council will receive
an update on any relevant interaction with and output from the strategy
panels and discuss any appropriate action going forward. </P>
<UL id=fold1_3_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><SPAN id=show1_3_1_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Update:
<UL id=fold1_3_1_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P><SPAN id=show1_3_1_1_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_1_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Strat Panels are out for comment </P>
<UL id=fold1_3_1_1_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><A
href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/strategy-panels-25feb14-en.htm"
target=_blank><SPAN class=l>~</SPAN> icann.org > En > News >
Public-comment > Strategy-panels-25feb14-en </A>
<LI><A
href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-2-25feb14-en.htm"
target=_blank><SPAN class=l>~</SPAN> icann.org > En > News >
Announcements > Announcement-2-25feb14-en </A></LI></UL>
<P>Fadi's recent update to AC/SO chairs -- on role panels and their role
in the strategy process -- concern about top-down was discussed </P>
<P><SPAN id=show1_3_1_1_2 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_1_2
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> MSI panel -- </P>
<UL id=fold1_3_1_1_2 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P><SPAN id=show1_3_1_1_2_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_1_2_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> 16 proposals (here's a link to my little
matrix of the proposals -- arrayed by Goal <--> Tool and
Participation <--> Policy) </P>
<UL id=fold1_3_1_1_2_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><A
href="http://www.haven2.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/PDP-Overview-GAC-GNSO-v5.jpg"
target=_blank><SPAN class=l>~</SPAN> haven2.com > Wp-content >
Uploads > 2007 > 07 > PDP-Overview-GAC-GNSO-v5 </A></LI></UL>
<P><SPAN id=show1_3_1_1_2_2 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_1_2_2
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Jonathan has reached out -- got off to a bit
of a slow start -- but meetings 2 weeks ago and yesterday </P>
<UL id=fold1_3_1_1_2_2
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P><SPAN id=show1_3_1_1_2_2_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_1_2_2_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> flag waving - we're the Council and the
GNSO - your work feels as though it overlaps our remit - so we are
very tuned to you work </P>
<UL id=fold1_3_1_1_2_2_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>Novak offered to do some kind of interview -- Jonathan was
uncomfortable </LI></UL>
<P><SPAN id=show1_3_1_1_2_2_2 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_1_2_2_2
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Yesterday's meeting </P>
<UL id=fold1_3_1_1_2_2_2
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P>working toward a meeting with 1/2 members of the staff (govLab)
people in singapore </P>
<P>opportunity to home in on a subset of the recommendations that
are more closely related to the policy work of the GNSO
</P></LI></UL></LI></UL>
<P><SPAN id=show1_3_1_1_2_3 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_1_2_3
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> 2 issues </P>
<UL id=fold1_3_1_1_2_3
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><SPAN id=show1_3_1_1_2_3_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_1_2_3_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> "top down" concern
<UL id=fold1_3_1_1_2_3_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>Jonathan: best aimed at Fadi not the MSI panel
</LI></UL></LI></UL></LI></UL></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_3_1_2 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_2
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Discussion
<UL id=fold1_3_1_2 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><SPAN id=show1_3_1_2_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_2_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Berard
<UL id=fold1_3_1_2_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P><SPAN id=show1_3_1_2_1_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_2_1_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> "this is something we need to talk about"
reenforces the "executivification" of ICANN -- it's really hard for a
part time person to stay above the raging water -- the community is
becoming more professional -- this is driving some of our community
members mad -- the more we can do to foster discussion at the broadest
level in the community, the better </P>
<UL id=fold1_3_1_2_1_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>Jonathan shares concern over the raging water
<LI>Jonathan emphasises distinction between MSI content and MSI
chartering </LI></UL></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_3_1_2_2 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_2_2
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Amr
<UL id=fold1_3_1_2_2 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P><SPAN id=show1_3_1_2_2_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_2_2_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> commisioning is very top down -- there is a
lot of work going on -- that's where the changes would have to be
reviewed </P>
<UL id=fold1_3_1_2_2_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P>doesn't feel quite as concerned as others are </P>
<P><SPAN id=show1_3_1_2_2_1_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_2_2_1_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Jonathan - we have the opportunity to
engage -- maybe a written response to the panel from the council
</P>
<UL id=fold1_3_1_2_2_1_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>reaction to their work AND
<LI>work that the GNSO is doing </LI></UL></LI></UL></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_3_1_2_3 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_2_3
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Stoll
<UL id=fold1_3_1_2_3 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P><SPAN id=show1_3_1_2_3_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_2_3_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> we need to inform them to alert them to
overlaps AND we need to inform administration of concerns directly
</P>
<UL id=fold1_3_1_2_3_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>comments seem to go into a black hole
<LI>be careful in the engagement </LI></UL></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_3_1_2_4 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_2_4
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Chiao
<UL id=fold1_3_1_2_4 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P>volunteers -- substantial proportion of cycles going to IG issue
</P>
<P>registries -- implementation requirements, additional load of IG
work -- overloaded is not just limited to volunteers in non-contracted
parties. Ry's and Rr's are struggling to keep up with
implementation requirements in addition to policy-making and IG
discussion. Very hard, especially for smaller registries. </P>
<P><SPAN id=show1_3_1_2_4_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_2_4_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> ICANN is now representing all of our voices
-- will people outside of ICANN have a chance to talk with the
community directly? Is ICANN trying to represent us, rather than
letting that conversation take place directly? </P>
<UL id=fold1_3_1_2_4_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>maybe it's time for constituencies to step out </LI></UL></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_3_1_2_5 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_2_5
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Greimann
<UL id=fold1_3_1_2_5 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P>topics are very worthwhile -- also helpful to have an outside voice
-- however i think this effort should have come in the ICANN way --
thus they have a bit of a birth defect because of the way they were
launched -- we shouldn't be deferential, give advice, should be seen
as comparable to the GAC </P></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_3_1_2_6 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_2_6
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Greenberg
<UL id=fold1_3_1_2_6 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P>MSI - remember they were put in place to comment on the *whole* MS
model, not just GNSO -- their remit is broader - they were asked to
suggest changes - informed process -- they DID suggest changes
and we need to embrace/refine their suggestions without appearing
defensive </P></LI></UL></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_3_1_3 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_3_1_3
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Followup
<UL id=fold1_3_1_3 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>Jonathan will follow up with Theresa about how we can best interact
with these panels </LI></UL></LI></UL></LI></UL>
<P><SPAN id=show1_4 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN
id=hide1_4 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Item 5: UPDATE – PDP Working Group on
Translation & Transliteration of Contact Information (10 mins) </P>
<UL id=fold1_4 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P>The GNSO Council recently initiated a Policy Development Process (PDP) on
the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information. As part of its
efforts to obtain broad input from the ICANN Community at an early stage of
its deliberations, the Working Group has requested input from the Supporting
Organizations (including the GNSO) and Advisory Committees on several
questions relating to the issues identified in the PDP Final Issue Report.
</P>
<P><SPAN id=show1_4_1 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_4_1 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> 5.1 – Update (Ching Chiao) </P>
<UL id=fold1_4_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>presented by Chris Dillon - cochair
<LI><SPAN id=show1_4_1_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_4_1_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> request for input - deadline is tomorrow
<UL id=fold1_4_1_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><A
href="https://community.icann.org/x/FTR-Ag">https://community.icann.org/x/FTR-Ag</A>
</LI></UL></LI></UL>
<P><SPAN id=show1_4_2 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_4_2 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> 5.2 – Discussion </P>
<UL id=fold1_4_2 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><SPAN id=show1_4_2_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_4_2_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Chiao - thanks Chris, encourages comments from
constituencies
<UL id=fold1_4_2_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>Action: remind ISPCP of need for input </LI></UL></LI></UL>
<P>5.3 – Next steps </P></LI></UL>
<P><SPAN id=show1_5 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN
id=hide1_5 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Item 6: UPDATE & DISCUSSION –
International Internet Governance Issues (20 mins) </P>
<UL id=fold1_5 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P>Discussions and activity relating to international Internet Governance
issues are attracting a great deal of attention in ICANN and related groups.
This item is on the agenda to provide an opportunity for discussion within
the Council about how this impacts the role and work of the Council and
mindful of the scope and remit of the Council, what action the Council
should or could be taking. </P>
<P><SPAN id=show1_5_1 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_5_1 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> 4.1 – Status update (Sally
Costerton) </P>
<UL id=fold1_5_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>Jonathan: what should be focusing on at Council
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_1_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_1_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Sally:
<UL id=fold1_5_1_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_1_1_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_1_1_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> several streams around IG
<UL id=fold1_5_1_1_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_1_1_1_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_1_1_1_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Background
<UL id=fold1_5_1_1_1_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P><SPAN id=show1_5_1_1_1_1_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_1_1_1_1_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Buenos Aires - became clear that profile
of IG was increasing - triggered by Snowden issue </P>
<UL id=fold1_5_1_1_1_1_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>the rest of the world had "woken up"
<LI>resurfaced WCIT issues </LI></UL>
<P>very full IG calendar in 2014 </P>
<P>Fadi's view - sense that there is frustration over how hard IG
issues are to resolve </P>
<P>ITU - march toward their meeting late in the year -- debate
around whether they're going to change their remit </P>
<P>if we don't participate others will do it for us </P></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_1_1_1_2 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_1_1_1_2
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> 1Net
<UL id=fold1_5_1_1_1_2
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P>discussion forum where debate is taking place in great detail
</P>
<P>now has a steering committee </P>
<P><SPAN id=show1_5_1_1_1_2_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_1_1_1_2_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> web forum is up and running -- discussion
is migrating that direction -- much easier to follow than the
overwhelming traffic on the email list </P>
<UL id=fold1_5_1_1_1_2_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><A href="https://forum.1net.org/" target=_blank><SPAN
class=l>~</SPAN> https://forum.1net.org/ </A></LI></UL></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_1_1_1_3 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_1_1_1_3
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> CCWG
<UL id=fold1_5_1_1_1_3
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>discuss and collect input
<LI>meeting weekly
<LI>goal: position by the end of March
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_1_1_1_3_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_1_1_1_3_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> email archive
<UL id=fold1_5_1_1_1_3_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><A
href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-internet-governance/">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-internet-governance/</A>
</LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_1_1_1_3_2 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_1_1_1_3_2
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> web page
<UL id=fold1_5_1_1_1_3_2
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P><A
href="https://community.icann.org/display/CPMMB/ICANN+Community+Preparation+for+the+Multistakeholder+Meeting+in+Brazil+Home">https://community.icann.org/display/CPMMB/ICANN+Community+Preparation+for+the+Multistakeholder+Meeting+in+Brazil+Home</A>
</P></LI></UL></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_1_1_1_4 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_1_1_1_4
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Hi Level Panel (5th panel)
<UL id=fold1_5_1_1_1_4
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_1_1_1_4_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_1_1_1_4_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> 3 f2f meetings
<UL id=fold1_5_1_1_1_4_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>December
<LI>now
<LI>May </LI></UL>
<LI>there is to be a submission to the Brazil meeting </LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_1_1_1_5 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_1_1_1_5
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> NetMundial
<UL id=fold1_5_1_1_1_5
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>goal: HOW to decide, not decide
<LI>submissions of principle and framework
<LI>late April, just after Easter
<LI>hosted by Brazilian govt
<LI>4 cochairs
<LI>Hi level committee -- just met this week -- goal: good
attention/attendance by governments
<LI>deadline for registration is tomorrow (28-Feb)
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_1_1_1_5_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_1_1_1_5_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> registration web page
<UL id=fold1_5_1_1_1_5_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><A href="http://content.netmundial.br/interests/expression"
target=_blank><SPAN class=l>~</SPAN> content.netmundial.br >
Interests > Expression </A></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_1_1_1_5_2 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_1_1_1_5_2
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> overall web page
<UL id=fold1_5_1_1_1_5_2
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><A href="http://netmundial.br/" target=_blank><SPAN
class=l>~</SPAN> netmundial.br </A></LI></UL></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_1_1_1_6 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_1_1_1_6
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Singapore
<UL id=fold1_5_1_1_1_6
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>NCSG event -- starts at 10am, Friday before meeting, 10:00 -
18:00, followed by reception w/Fadi
<LI>Several events during the ICANN meetings
</LI></UL></LI></UL></LI></UL></LI></UL>
<P><SPAN id=show1_5_2 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_5_2 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> 4.2 – Discussion </P>
<UL id=fold1_5_2 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_2_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_2_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Berard;
<UL id=fold1_5_2_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P><SPAN id=show1_5_2_1_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_2_1_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> ccNSO: categories of participation in
NetMudial meetingdon't make room for ccTLD managers -- is this a
metaphor for the way that IG discussions aren't leaving room for
individual members of ICANN </P>
<UL id=fold1_5_2_1_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_2_1_1_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_2_1_1_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> tactical - ccNSO members?
<UL id=fold1_5_2_1_1_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>open registration meeting - everybody is welcome - first come
first served attendance
<LI>strongly encourage participation </LI></UL></LI></UL>
<P><SPAN id=show1_5_2_1_2 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_2_1_2
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Snowden revelations provide excellent cover
for political intent -- what is Fadi's public position on this? </P>
<UL id=fold1_5_2_1_2 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P>Maria Farrell: John - the Montevideo statement sets out pretty
clearly the concern re. pervasive monitoring and Internet stewardship.
Fadi signed it for ICANN so I think it's fair to say he sees a link.
Even if some use the Snowden revelations tactically, the fact remains
that many have lost faith in the impartiality of the USG. </P>
<P><SPAN id=show1_5_2_1_2_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_2_1_2_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Costerton: get asked questions about
globalization of ICANN and Snowden - we don't have a particular view -
realization within the US govt that structures may need to change </P>
<UL id=fold1_5_2_1_2_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>need to reenforce other voices at the table </LI></UL></LI></UL>
<P><SPAN id=show1_5_2_1_3 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_2_1_3
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Richard Clark transcript -- the two issues are
as far apart as one could find </P>
<UL id=fold1_5_2_1_3 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P><A
href="http://windowsitpro.com/identity-management/richard-clarke-rsa-conference-10-observations-us-intelligence-gathering"
target=_blank><SPAN class=l>~</SPAN> windowsitpro.com >
Identity-management >
Richard-clarke-rsa-conference-10-observations-us-intelligence-gathering
</A></P></LI></UL></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_2_2 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_2_2
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Farrell
<UL id=fold1_5_2_2 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P><SPAN id=show1_5_2_2_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_2_2_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Board resolution on globalization - disquite
on lack of consultation, yet more CEO appointed panels, a lot of CEO-led
activity going on. concern about Council role in this ad hoc
series of actions by administration </P>
<UL id=fold1_5_2_2_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P><SPAN id=show1_5_2_2_1_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_2_2_1_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Board chair saw a lot of email on this --
perhaps the 1net list? </P>
<UL id=fold1_5_2_2_1_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P><A
href="http://1net-mail.1net.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-February/002194.html"
target=_blank><SPAN class=l>~</SPAN> Marika Konings: Please note
that this is the email from Steve Crocker that Sally was referring
to:
http://1net-mail.1net.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-February/002194.html
</A></P></LI></UL>
<P>Costerton; with her engagement hat on -- groups are to facilitate
the discussion that you have described Maria -- they will be in
Singapore and given a public block - Council needs to know that their
role is to act as facilitator </P>
<P><SPAN id=show1_5_2_2_1_2 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_2_2_1_2
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Avri would very much have liked to
participate the process of setting this up - post is coming to the
list </P>
<UL id=fold1_5_2_2_1_2
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>Action: watch for that post </LI></UL></LI></UL></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_2_3 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_2_3
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Cake:
<UL id=fold1_5_2_3 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_2_3_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_2_3_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> is there anything that the Council or SGs
should do?
<UL id=fold1_5_2_3_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>reach out to communities and encourage them to participate in
Netmundial
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_2_3_1_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_2_3_1_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> take a look at the BCG report
<UL id=fold1_5_2_3_1_1
style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><A
href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-24jan14-en.htm"
target=_blank><SPAN class=l>~</SPAN> icann.org > En > News
> Announcements > Announcement-24jan14-en
</A></LI></UL></LI></UL></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_5_2_4 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_5_2_4
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Chiao
<UL id=fold1_5_2_4 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P>congratulates Costerton on ASIAPAC engagement -- AsiaPAC members
would like to be more engaged with the actual meetings, not just talking
to people in the region, bring people to the meeting table and actually
contribute </P></LI></UL></LI></UL>
<P>4.3 – Next steps </P></LI></UL>
<P><SPAN id=show1_6 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN
id=hide1_6 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Item 7: UPDATE & DISCUSSION – GAC
Engagement – the work of the Joint GAC / GNSO Consultation Group (15 mins)
</P>
<UL id=fold1_6 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>Here the Council will receive an update and discuss any action going
forward.
<LI><SPAN id=show1_6_1 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_6_1 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> 7.1 – Status update
<UL id=fold1_6_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><SPAN id=show1_6_1_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_6_1_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Amr:
<UL id=fold1_6_1_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><SPAN id=show1_6_1_1_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_6_1_1_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Reviewed charter --
<UL id=fold1_6_1_1_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><A
href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gac-gnso-cg/attachments/20140212/c6e3f7b6/GAC-GNSO-final-0001.pdf">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gac-gnso-cg/attachments/20140212/c6e3f7b6/GAC-GNSO-final-0001.pdf</A>
</LI></UL>
<LI>Two work streams - PDP early engagement and day to day interaction
</LI></UL></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_6_2 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_6_2 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> 7.2 – Discussion
<UL id=fold1_6_2 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><SPAN id=show1_6_2_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_6_2_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Mikey
<UL id=fold1_6_2_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>Charter is done, proposals are in progress </LI></UL></LI></UL>
<LI>7.3 – Next steps </LI></UL>
<P><SPAN id=show1_7 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN
id=hide1_7 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Item 8: UPDATE & DISCUSSION –
Forthcoming review of the GNSO (10 mins) </P>
<UL id=fold1_7 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P>As part of a periodic review process that is built into the ICANN model,
ICANN board initiated reviews of the GNSO (and the GNSO Council and related
functions) are expected. In order to be informed and effectively
prepared for this work, we have begun to engage with the body that
commissions such reviews (the structural improvements committee) through its
chair, Ray Plazk. </P>
<P>The Council will track the planning work of the SIC and, where
appropriate; provide relevant input to the process. We will also
prepare to undertake a form of self-review in a similar format to that which
we expect to arise out of the work of the SIC. A self-review will
ensure that we are not only prepared for the board initiated work but also
able to flag areas for potential improvement in as timely as possible a
manner. </P>
<P><SPAN id=show1_7_1 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_7_1 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> 8.1 – Update (Jennifer Wolfe)
</P>
<UL id=fold1_7_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P>there is no update since the last meeting -- still waiting for an
update from Ray </P>
<P>Jonathan: will there be a document prior to Singapore? Marika:
nothing expected to be published before Singapore </P></LI></UL>
<P>8.2 – Discussion </P>
<P>8.3 – Next steps </P></LI></UL>
<P><SPAN id=show1_8 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN
id=hide1_8 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Item 9: UPDATE & DISCUSSION –
Planning for Singapore (15 mins) </P>
<UL id=fold1_8 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P>Making the most out of the face-to-face meeting time available at the
ICANN Meeting in Buenos Aires will take planning. GNSO Council Vice
Chair, David Cake will lead this and will be working with the Council and
staff on this effort. </P>
<P>Here the Council has the opportunity to feed into plans and provide input
based on past experience. Included in this item will be the
opportunity to shape the approach to and substance of the Council’s proposed
meetings with other groups in such as the CCNSO, the GAC and the ICANN
board. </P>
<P><SPAN id=show1_8_1 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_8_1 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> 9.1 – Update (David Cake &
Jonathan Robinson) </P>
<UL id=fold1_8_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>Cake: very much Draft, </LI></UL>
<P>9.2 – Discussion </P>
<P><SPAN id=show1_8_2 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_8_2 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> 9.3 – Next steps </P>
<UL id=fold1_8_2 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>Action: forward the draft schedule to the ISPCP list if it
hasn't been already -- DONE </LI></UL></LI></UL>
<P><SPAN id=show1_9 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN
id=hide1_9 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Item 10: Any Other Business (10
mins) </P>
<UL id=fold1_9 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><SPAN id=show1_9_1 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_9_1 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Community budget requests
<UL id=fold1_9_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><SPAN id=show1_9_1_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_9_1_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> requests from the Council:
<UL id=fold1_9_1_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>Council development session,
<LI>face-to-face PDP meetings (potential for facilitation),
<LI>GAC GNSO reverse liaison (placeholder) </LI></UL></LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_9_2 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_9_2 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> ICANN Board Seat 14 – NCPH -
additional Council meeting Thursday, 10 April 2014 at 14:00 UTC
<UL id=fold1_9_2 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>this is a placeholder for that meeting -- Glen to follow up to the
list -- rationale for meeting </LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_9_3 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_9_3 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Note the Root Server System
Advisory Committee (RSSAC) presence in Singapore
<UL id=fold1_9_3 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>Action: schedule them with ISPCP on Tuesday?
<LI>Action: note public session to ISPCP list </LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_9_4 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_9_4 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Meeting Strategy WG has draft
out for comment
<UL id=fold1_9_4 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><SPAN id=show1_9_4_1 class=foldclosed
style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN> <SPAN id=hide1_9_4_1
class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Action: forward to ISPCP list - DONE
<UL id=fold1_9_4_1 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI><A
href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/meetings-strategy-25feb14-en.htm"
target=_blank><SPAN class=l>~</SPAN> icann.org > En > News >
Public-comment > Meetings-strategy-25feb14-en </A></LI></UL>
<LI>Action: comments from ISPCP? - DONE </LI></UL>
<LI><SPAN id=show1_9_5 class=foldclosed style="POSITION: absolute">+</SPAN>
<SPAN id=hide1_9_5 class=foldopened>-</SPAN> Amr: EWG process -- is Issue
report the same as the EWG final report?
<UL id=fold1_9_5 style="POSITION: relative; VISIBILITY: visible">
<LI>
<P>Marika: important to separate the two. final report due London,
may be another round of public comment. </P>
<P>There is already an initial report underway -- EWG will feed into that
Issue Report, which will proceed to PDP because it's Board initiated
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