[ksk-change] Testing new keys added

Richard Lamb richard.lamb at icann.org
Fri Oct 10 20:09:06 UTC 2014


Ahh.. Got it.  Thank you.  I was on the wrong plane of thought.  Engineering is not the hard part here.


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On Oct 10, 2014, at 12:56, Michael StJohns <msj at nthpermutation.com<mailto:msj at nthpermutation.com>> wrote:

On 10/10/2014 3:08 PM, Richard Lamb wrote:

Jakob's right.  If I understand question correctly, you always need two KSK
RRSIGs to be able to simultaneously validate with either TA.  I learned that
when I was testing ksrsigner.c for key rolls. -Rick

That's not what the stuff below was about exactly.

The issue is actually that the trust chains from A and B can't ever be independent because both chains must pass through the monolithic signed root DNSKEY RRSet.  So its impossible to set up a zone that can *only* be verified if you've installed "B" as a trust anchor.  (*sigh*  That's not exactly the right way to say it but close enough for government work....)

Mike






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On Behalf Of Jakob Schlyter
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Subject: Re: [ksk-change] Testing new keys added

On 10 okt 2014, at 04:19, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman at vpnc.org><mailto:paul.hoffman at vpnc.org> wrote:



Assuming that a rollover uses the Double-KSK method described previously,


is there an intention to test systems for the new SEP key before removing
the old one? That is, if A is the current KSK and IANA adds B, after the
30-day hold-down time, either key could be used to sign zones in the root.

No, both keys needs to sign the ZSK that signs the DS records in the root
zone. And that invalidates the rest of your (otherwise interesting)
proposal. Sorry :-/

        jakob

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