<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 18 Sep 2018, at 01:44, Olaf Kolkman <<a href="mailto:kolkman@isoc.org" class="">kolkman@isoc.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div id="x_compose-container" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/EmailMessage" style="direction: ltr;" class=""><span itemprop="creator" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/Organization" class=""><span itemprop="name" class=""></span></span><div class=""><div style="direction: ltr;" class="">I agree with Michael, albeit I would phrase it slightly differently:</div><div style="direction: ltr;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="direction: ltr;" class="">Rolling the key regularly is a strategic choise and makes a keyroll an operational reality.</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote>Agree.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div id="x_compose-container" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/EmailMessage" style="direction: ltr;" class=""><div class=""><div style="direction: ltr;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="direction: ltr;" class="">How regular (or how frequent) is a tactic. Whether That is yearly, no monthly or once half a decade is a tactic that takes into account some of our learnings. </div></div></div></div></div></blockquote>Agree<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div id="x_compose-container" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/EmailMessage" style="direction: ltr;" class=""><div class=""><div style="direction: ltr;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="direction: ltr;" class="">I would really like to see that strategic position being explicit.</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>based on the statements above, i tend to support the idea of this strategic position be proposed and discussed once we are done with this current and 1st rollover. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>—Alain<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div id="x_compose-container" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/EmailMessage" style="direction: ltr;" class=""><div class=""><div style="direction: ltr;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="direction: ltr;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="direction: ltr;" class="">Olaf.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="x_acompli_signature"><div style="direction: ltr;" class="">----</div><div style="direction: ltr;" class="">Composed on mobile device, with clumsy thumbs and unpredictable autocorrect.</div></div></div></div><hr tabindex="-1" style="display: inline-block; width: 954.515625px;" class=""><div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ksk-rollover <<a href="mailto:ksk-rollover-bounces@icann.org" class="">ksk-rollover-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Michael StJohns <<a href="mailto:msj@nthpermutation.com" class="">msj@nthpermutation.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, September 18, 2018 5:04:31 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Matt Larson<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ksk-rollover@icann.org" class="">ksk-rollover@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [ksk-rollover] ICANN board meeting result and the Current status of KSK-Rollover</font><div class=""> </div></div></div><font size="2" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><div class="PlainText">On 9/17/2018 3:57 PM, Matt Larson wrote:<br class="">> The answer I've given when people ask this question is that we need to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> get through the first rollover and analyze how it goes before we can<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> discuss subsequent rollovers. One can imagine that how the first<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> rollover goes could have a material effect on the timing of the next one.<br class=""><br class="">This seems like a bad approach given how that we currently have interest<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">and opportunity in the roll-over that could catalyze planning for a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">second roll. This does not - and should not - need to be single<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">threaded. AFAICT, you're going to know most everything you need to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">know a few seconds to a few days after you stop signing the the old key.<br class=""><br class="">So - I suggest you pick a date now. Start planning for the next roll<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">now. If your post analysis shows a problem - adapt and overcome and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">adjust the dates if you need to. It's hard to hit a target if you don't<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">put it on calendar.<br class=""><br class="">Later, Mike<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">ksk-rollover mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:ksk-rollover@icann.org" class="">ksk-rollover@icann.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ksk-rollover" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ksk-rollover</a><br class=""></div></span></font><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">ksk-rollover mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="mailto:ksk-rollover@icann.org" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">ksk-rollover@icann.org</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ksk-rollover" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ksk-rollover</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>