[Latingp] Draft in-script variants
Bill Jouris
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Tue Aug 28 21:04:00 UTC 2018
For my candidates, I would say that the differences between them are on the order of the differences between different fonts. Which is what you are trying to use as a criteria, right?
I don't believe that these are ALL of the pairs which would meet even that criteria. But I think they constitute additional members.
I would also ask, however, what are we trying to accomplish with the identification of variants? I submit that our goal is to make the Internet more usable for its user community. If two code points are indistinguishable, how does it help to insist that they are not variants? If the average user will not notice the difference, how does that help them? (I can see how it helps the bottom line of companies which make money registering domain names. After all, it means more defensive registrations. But that isn't of any particular benefit to the general Internet user community.)
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From: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka at verisign.com>
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Subject: Re: [Latingp] Draft in-script variants
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Let’s bring it up when we get to review in-script variants. For the time being please provide evidence of your candidates. Thanks, Dennis From:Bill Jouris <bill.jouris at insidethestack.com>
Reply-To: Bill Jouris <bill.jouris at insidethestack.com>
Date: Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 3:05 PM
To: Dennis Tan Tanaka <dtantanaka at verisign.com>, "latingp at icann.org" <latingp at icann.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] Draft in-script variants As far as I can see, all of the Marshallese references are to justify exclusion. Not inclusion. What am I missing? Bill Jouris
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Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Latingp] Draft in-script variants Bill, For in-script variants IP asked we provide evidence of the variant relationship. Since the cases you are proposing do not fall in the homoglyph category, the panel must provide a strong reason for inclusion (e.g. Marshelle cases) Thanks,
Dennis From:Latingp <latingp-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Bill Jouris <bill.jouris at insidethestack.com>
Reply-To: Bill Jouris <bill.jouris at insidethestack.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 11:54 PM
To: "latingp at icann.org" <latingp at icann.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] Draft in-script variants I've taken the liberty of adding a couple dozen additional candidates. (I held off the Rating 2 cases. These are the slam dunks.) I still think that, as discussed last week, we ought to include more cases rather than fewer. Especially when we are sending a draft to the IP for review -- that's when they can tell us if we have taken a wrong turn. Bill Jouris
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925-855-9512 (direct) From: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis via Latingp" <latingp at icann.org>
To: "latingp at icann.org" <latingp at icann.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 7:43 PM
Subject: [Latingp] Draft in-script variants Dear Latin GP, Here is the compilation of current in-script variant candidates for our review during tomorrow’s call. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bKKFHxbjgBd9CIPRiuOsej_3x670yTytUMM32Ou7Vcs/edit?usp=sharing Talk to you all soon. Best, -Dennis _______________________________________________
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