[Latingp] ACTION NEEDED: New version of the response to IP on :Diacritics below a security risk?

Bill Jouris bill.jouris at insidethestack.com
Tue Sep 18 16:54:21 UTC 2018


Dennis, 

I should not have allowed my irritation to descend into sarcasm. 

However, consider the following: 
- You crafted the initial page of the document. 
- Others of us added additional pages.  This was the first week of September. 
- Mirjana asked that we have final comment by Monday (yesterday) 
- Late Monday afternoon, you made edits which 
a) deleted everything not written by youb) substituted very different wording
I just can't see that as a good-faith effort to be helpful.    Bill Jouris
Inside Products
bill.jouris at insidethestack.com
831-659-8360
925-855-9512 (direct)

      From: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka at verisign.com>
 To: "bill.jouris at insidethestack.com" <bill.jouris at insidethestack.com>; "Mirjana.Tasic at rnids.rs" <Mirjana.Tasic at rnids.rs>; "latingp at icann.org" <latingp at icann.org> 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [Latingp] ACTION NEEDED: New version of the response to IP on :Diacritics below a security risk?
   
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Reply-To: Bill Jouris <bill.jouris at insidethestack.com>
Date: Monday, September 17, 2018 at 5:07 PM
To: Dennis Tan Tanaka <dtantanaka at verisign.com>, "Mirjana.Tasic at rnids.rs" <Mirjana.Tasic at rnids.rs>, "latingp at icann.org" <latingp at icann.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] ACTION NEEDED: New version of the response to IP on :Diacritics below a security risk?    Gosh, Dennis, what a blatant effort to make sure that the IP does not say something which would conflict with your preferred view!  I am in awe! 

 

 I think what we had (before you ran wild just now) was just fine.  Not perfect, but something at would address the issues that several of us had. 

 

 I STRONGLY urge that this last bunch of edits be rejected.   Bill Jouris
Inside Products
bill.jouris at insidethestack.com
831-659-8360
925-855-9512 (direct)    From: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis via Latingp" <latingp at icann.org>
To: "Mirjana.Tasic at rnids.rs" <Mirjana.Tasic at rnids.rs>; "latingp at icann.org" <latingp at icann.org>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Latingp] ACTION NEEDED: New version of the response to IP on :Diacritics below a security risk?    Mirjana,   I made some edits to the doc (in google docs) that may resolve the pending comments. Please review at your convenience.   Thanks, Dennis   From:Latingp <latingp-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic at rnids.rs>
Date: Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 8:24 AM
To: Latin GP <latingp at icann.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Latingp] ACTION NEEDED: New version of the response to IP on :Diacritics below a security risk?   Dear GP members,   We have to send our response to this letter from IP as soon as possible.   Please find in the attachment the response I tried to compile.   Your feedback is expected till Monday. We need IP response till our F2F meeting in Brussels.   I cannot resolve now Meikal and Bill comments, although I have commented it in the document   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MHSRol829bhBdxBXpdmYe0uxm-NwJ-EQb3gbOGIFDsA/edit     My comment was   “I want to remind you that scope of our work is now MSR3. We shall see the IP response to this letter. Anyway some of you, who will be present in Barcelona, will have the opportunity to discuss everything with IP members during 75 minutes working session of the Latin GP with IP open for the community, tentatively on Monday 22 Oct.”   Regards Mirjana   _______________________________________________
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