[Latingp] Latin GP weekly meeting

Pitinan Kooarmornpatana pitinan.koo at icann.org
Thu May 16 06:14:48 UTC 2019


Dear Latin GP members,



This is a gentle reminder for the Latin GP meetings on Thursdays at 16:00 UTC. Please join via https://icann.zoom.us/j/866686947



AGENDA for the GP call on May the 16th, 2019, 16:00UTC

  1.  Roll call

  2.  Status of Action items

  3.  Further steps and priorities

  4.  Next meeting proposal May the 23rd , 2019, 16:00

  5.  AOB



   Action items from previous calls






        ACTION  ITEM
         STATUS

1.
        Complete URL Underlining Analysis

   *   Send spreadsheet with analysis for review by IP

   *   Focus on clear-cut cases, but make a call for other cases as well

   *   Consider incorporating “q” vs “g” in similarity section; mention URL underlining case

   *   Bear in mind effect of transitivity when defining variants

   *   Cedilla and Comma Below have historic relationship; good candidate for variants (even without URL underlining)

        1.Dennis, started,

2.Meikal and Bill should provide table based on Denis proposal for further investigation of underlining-RESOLVED

3.Meikal an Bill offered excel sheets for evaluation
4. Table for rating underlined code points is HERE [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_19FZmntXOan-5F7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC-5FGxWEfAmmOMkU_edit-23gid-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=Gc3PDFef5Wn9A8K4T4qSSxAQLRPhA19Eq0whL7TYKbg&e=>

5. All members to put marks in this table

2.
        Create clear guidelines for variant definition that can be used as references in the proposal
        1.Dennis, Meikal, Bill

2. ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report

3.
        Review “base character” analysis per assignments

finish reviewing previous work
        1.       Finished reports could be found HERE [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_home_Latin-2520GP_InScriptVariants_InScriptVariantAnalysis-2Dhomeworks&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=kWZ02RqcgWcEZfo3iITHl1bbYhEoomtGHmoH5XXjrSg&e=>

2.       Cannot find reports from Mats and Denis

4.
        Further input on German Eszett by German Registries
        1.       Michael. Text added in Final Report

2.       ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report

5.
        Write-up proposal to include 00B7 (Middle Dot) to support “l·l” (letter L + Middle Dot + letter L) for Catalan language --
        1.       Michael, results from discussion with IP

2.       Short report on this action should be included in Final report

6.
        Develop test label strategy
        1.       Mirjana gave Proposal[docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1LJpUJB2XfBc76O4LuDl9jmPqI7WCai-5Fs-2D9szi6-5FkLzo_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=NmqPpD1KbM0eLdUYfIYnPTkU0hzpYehoeU9FtFyWmjo&e=>

2.       ALL – comments expected

7.
        Create test cases for dotless I vis-a-vis IDNA 2003 Compatibility issues
        1.       Mats

8.
        Complete section for IDNA2003 compatibility issues in next version
        1.       Dennis, Mats

9.
        Maintenance of list of cases for additional similarity review
        1. Bill.-Table could be found HERE[dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_preview_Latin-2520GP_InScriptVariants_Bill-2D-2520In-2DScriptVariantAnalysis-2DSimilarityReview.xlsx-3Frole-3Dpersonal&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=mvWlVBDJut55Lz3bPcqldcTW2WNAhEZU_-yf3gajD-o&e=>

2.  What are next steps?

10.
        Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.docx)


        1. Bill- Text could be found HERE[dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_preview_Latin-2520GP_InScriptVariants_Bill-2DCombiningDiacriticsandStacking.docx-3Frole-3Dpersonal&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=JxzwpjukM00Ur78TdouPC-lF2ZEsaiQXmWhwwA6OAMk&e=>

2. Problem should be discussed by Panel

11.
        In script analysis on visual ground
         NOT STARTED YET

12.
        Discussion on filling final report with results of our analysis of In-script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis. Maikal gave the suggestion in Appendix D. We should decide how to fill final report with our results.
        1.       Meikal’s template for Appendix D[onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view.aspx-3Fresid-3D10C636851F7DD403-21612296-26ithint-3Dfile-252cdocx-26authkey-3D-21AJa6cA3tJQ27DgI&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=Ae-bOMcglY8pOtHRA81MxxH53DcD8W86Yi-c9ihJm8g&e=> accepted

13.
        Filling Appendix D template [onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view.aspx-3Fresid-3D10C636851F7DD403-21612296-26ithint-3Dfile-252cdocx-26authkey-3D-21AJa6cA3tJQ27DgI&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=Ae-bOMcglY8pOtHRA81MxxH53DcD8W86Yi-c9ihJm8g&e=>with findings from non-visual analysis
        1. Finished : Mirjana, Meikal, Michael

2. Expecting (Mats, Bill, Denis, Hazzem)

14.
        Wordmark.it users, who needs them








REMINDERS



  1.  Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf)

      https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningDiacriticsandStacking.docx?role=personal [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_preview_Latin-2520GP_InScriptVariants_Bill-2DCombiningDiacriticsandStacking.docx-3Frole-3Dpersonal&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=JxzwpjukM00Ur78TdouPC-lF2ZEsaiQXmWhwwA6OAMk&e=>



  2.  Following In script Non visual base character analysis  sent as .pdf.or word document could be found in Dropbox

         https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAnalysis-homeworks [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_home_Latin-2520GP_InScriptVariants_InScriptVariantAnalysis-2Dhomeworks&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=kWZ02RqcgWcEZfo3iITHl1bbYhEoomtGHmoH5XXjrSg&e=>

         ·         Hazzem

         ·         Mirjana

         ·         Bill

         ·         Meikal

         ·         Michael

         ·         Missing reports from:

             *   Denis

             *   Mats

  3.  IN Script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis (homework from Oct 2018 F2F meeting)

         ·         Michael https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t6f_5JK5YIaoHeYSAQYJfXrW-AFnlkezJ9zwP20xidE/edit#heading=h.v9grc3xvxl8k [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1t6f-5F5JK5YIaoHeYSAQYJfXrW-2DAFnlkezJ9zwP20xidE_edit-23heading-3Dh.v9grc3xvxl8k&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=5dY3NlSZGL6fkTz0lCJHjinJDOwBvh3UEtQq-bYOCDo&e=>

         ·         Mirjana https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ggZHyg35k_2eplhrGA0wy34U5TeUMi6FM-M-Im1qe6c/edit?usp=sharing [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1ggZHyg35k-5F2eplhrGA0wy34U5TeUMi6FM-2DM-2DIm1qe6c_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=oZ_P_RKO3cInDjn8WqJG_ME7YQDjfmGTS0yZcODhuC4&e=>

         ·         Bill https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nfm-1A8Keomj0DP_IJcgJm62EFdUJRq7HP0CHV1_UrQ/edit [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1Nfm-2D1A8Keomj0DP-5FIJcgJm62EFdUJRq7HP0CHV1-5FUrQ_edit&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=8HE3O6kgtgmvqdIX0tsPs_CFqHqtf9FhUXFsDm2H_iA&e=>

         ·         Hazem https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXM4xL5xh9My1QYIVwWrJqJ6djfRr7Ncz0IyNRFXCKI/edit?usp=sharing [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1wXM4xL5xh9My1QYIVwWrJqJ6djfRr7Ncz0IyNRFXCKI_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=4JX_LWBZ-jTxR9P9Ig7wHfNRJIogSY1sKFZAS_54ccA&e=>

         ·         Meikal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fjxdwx_eRep94Xp5YcidiA_4svV73MFc8wLGM2zvdgk/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1fjxdwx-5FeRep94Xp5YcidiA-5F4svV73MFc8wLGM2zvdgk_edit-23heading-3Dh.gjdgxs&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=wMdH-aqWbxRz_iEzXJnA3-H2-jkZTjXJP6O61RU2t3g&e=>

         ·         Dennis https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GgawEKKwrvC8P0UAuB5DAka1P13s98HEvp2kxn0cM5Q/edit [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1GgawEKKwrvC8P0UAuB5DAka1P13s98HEvp2kxn0cM5Q_edit&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=IF9QuZiDqTD8KI3Rm1rcoLaQ8TUYiK_qjOZkS0kn67Q&e=>

         ·         Mats,

            https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAnalysis-homeworks/MatsDufberg-In-Script%20Non-Visual%20Variant%20Discovery%20Analysis.rtfd [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_home_Latin-2520GP_InScriptVariants_InScriptVariantAnalysis-2Dhomeworks_MatsDufberg-2DIn-2DScript-2520Non-2DVisual-2520Variant-2520Discovery-2520Analysis.rtfd&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=lFQY0YhEUA0phieXkvw5xbBDxJxK41rJQRiT82igAdQ&e=>






  4.  Meikal’s Template for Appendix D on Variants

      https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=file%2cdocx&authkey=!AJa6cA3tJQ27DgI [onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view.aspx-3Fresid-3D10C636851F7DD403-21612296-26ithint-3Dfile-252cdocx-26authkey-3D-21AJa6cA3tJQ27DgI&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=Ae-bOMcglY8pOtHRA81MxxH53DcD8W86Yi-c9ihJm8g&e=>


  5.  Bill’s table with code points collected for visual similarity analysis

      https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-ScriptVariantAnalysis-SimilarityReview.xlsx?role=personal [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_preview_Latin-2520GP_InScriptVariants_Bill-2D-2520In-2DScriptVariantAnalysis-2DSimilarityReview.xlsx-3Frole-3Dpersonal&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=mvWlVBDJut55Lz3bPcqldcTW2WNAhEZU_-yf3gajD-o&e=>




  6.  Underlining analysis table (Bill’s version)

      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FZmntXOan_7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC_GxWEfAmmOMkU/edit#gid=0 [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_19FZmntXOan-5F7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC-5FGxWEfAmmOMkU_edit-23gid-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=J3vtgw5zvKK9N1Bwj46ueWeGZxV1m7tTUU8AVG699Rk&s=Gc3PDFef5Wn9A8K4T4qSSxAQLRPhA19Eq0whL7TYKbg&e=>





Regards,

Pitinan

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