[Latingp] Latin GP weekly meeting

Tan Tanaka, Dennis dtantanaka at verisign.com
Thu May 23 15:46:00 UTC 2019


All – Here is the draft addressing action item 8 wrt Sharp S

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Asf9ecnyX4rkK3pyQMzDuH8YY5-eXw8quZ6guDiUmqY/edit?usp=sharing

Talk to you soon.
Dennis

From: Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo at icann.org>
Date: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 at 1:20 PM
To: "latingp at icann.org" <latingp at icann.org>
Cc: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain at icann.org>, Mats Dufberg <mats.dufberg at internetstiftelsen.se>, Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic at rnids.rs>, Fahd Batayneh <fahd.batayneh at icann.org>, Dennis Tan Tanaka <dtantanaka at verisign.com>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Latin GP weekly meeting

Dear Latin GP members,

This is a gentle reminder for the Latin GP meetings on Thursdays 23 May, at 16:00 UTC.

AGENDA for the GP call on May the 23rd, 2019, 16:00UTC

1.      Roll call
2.      URL underlining analysis – review of code points with inconsistent evaluation
3.      Final Report review – resolution of comments and remarks
4.      Next meeting proposal May the 30th, 2019, 16:00
5.      AOB


Action items from previous calls





ACTION ITEM

STATUS


1.

Complete URL Underlining Analysis

  *   Send spreadsheet with analysis for review by IP
  *   Focus on clear-cut cases, but make a call for other cases as well
  *   Consider incorporating “q” vs “g” in similarity section; mention URL underlining case
  *   Bear in mind effect of transitivity when defining variants
  *   Cedilla and Comma Below have historic relationship; good candidate for variants (even without URL underlining)

1. Dennis started
2. Meikal and Bill should provide table based on Denis proposal for further investigation of underlining-RESOLVED
3. Meikal an Bill offered excel sheets for evaluation
4. Table for rating underlined code points is HERE [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_19FZmntXOan-5F7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC-5FGxWEfAmmOMkU_edit-23gid-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=Ko6dzAgCywIvey9nOJj9bracHbjbsjTecuPF2GiGiJE&e=>
5. All members to put marks in this table
6. Bill summarized inspection of code points
7. Panel review of code points with inconsistent eveluation


2.

Create clear guidelines for variant definition that can be used as references in the proposal

1.Dennis, Meikal, Bill
2. ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report


3.

Review “base character” analysis per assignments
finish reviewing previous work


Finished reports could be found HERE [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_home_Latin-2520GP_InScriptVariants_InScriptVariantAnalysis-2Dhomeworks&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=3fR0qas9TY9TNu7xxUnFs02j8XCGVTrnBU0MYsS8-L4&e=>

Cannot find reports from Mats and Denis


4.

Further input on German Eszett by German Registries


Michael. Text added in Final Report

ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report


5.

Write-up proposal to include 00B7 (Middle Dot) to support “l·l” (letter L + Middle Dot + letter L) for Catalan language --


Michael, results from discussion with IP

Short report on this action should be included in Final report


6.

Develop test label strategy


Mirjana gave Proposal[docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1LJpUJB2XfBc76O4LuDl9jmPqI7WCai-5Fs-2D9szi6-5FkLzo_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=XbVGUrpM96SOKvGA0Bl5rCOF6PkzmFZl_9b5slJDpIU&e=>

ALL – comments expected


7.

Create test cases for dotless I vis-a-vis IDNA 2003 Compatibility issues


Mats


8.

Complete section for IDNA2003 compatibility issues in next version


Dennis, Mats


9.

Maintenance of list of cases for additional similarity review

1. Bill.-Table could be found HERE[dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_preview_Latin-2520GP_InScriptVariants_Bill-2D-2520In-2DScriptVariantAnalysis-2DSimilarityReview.xlsx-3Frole-3Dpersonal&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=G-fsMpIqjec8TA1xhYkgKsUeLMQnTuVcMqj7R8VI_Mk&e=>
2. What are next steps?


10.

Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.docx)


1. Bill- Text could be found HERE[dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_preview_Latin-2520GP_InScriptVariants_Bill-2DCombiningDiacriticsandStacking.docx-3Frole-3Dpersonal&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=G0IzF6N2q4WeLWPODQ2Pwm5u6Pwbxgi-N-f9tB8Po3Y&e=>
2. Problem should be discussed by Panel


11.

In script analysis on visual ground

NOT STARTED YET


12.

Discussion on filling final report with results of our analysis of In-script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis. Maikal gave the suggestion in Appendix D. We should decide how to fill final report with our results.


The problem was discussed and Meikal provided template for Appendix D [onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view.aspx-3Fresid-3D10C636851F7DD403-21612296-26ithint-3Dfile-252cdocx-26authkey-3D-21AJa6cA3tJQ27DgI&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=UbtQ6dJlrkS5QV25mF9FzvOXTG2PzqTR4kpUV4gW8T4&e=> . Template was accepted by panel.


13.

Filling Appendix D template [onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view.aspx-3Fresid-3D10C636851F7DD403-21612296-26ithint-3Dfile-252cdocx-26authkey-3D-21AJa6cA3tJQ27DgI&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=UbtQ6dJlrkS5QV25mF9FzvOXTG2PzqTR4kpUV4gW8T4&e=>with findings from non-visual analysis

1. Finished : Mirjana, Meikal, Michael
2. Expecting (Mats, Bill, Denis, Hazzem)


14.

Wordmark.it users, who needs them






REMINDERS

1.      Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf)
https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningDiacriticsandStacking.docx?role=personal [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_preview_Latin-2520GP_InScriptVariants_Bill-2DCombiningDiacriticsandStacking.docx-3Frole-3Dpersonal&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=G0IzF6N2q4WeLWPODQ2Pwm5u6Pwbxgi-N-f9tB8Po3Y&e=>

2.      Following In script Non visual base character analysis sent as .pdf.or word document could be found in Dropbox
https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAnalysis-homeworks [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_home_Latin-2520GP_InScriptVariants_InScriptVariantAnalysis-2Dhomeworks&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=3fR0qas9TY9TNu7xxUnFs02j8XCGVTrnBU0MYsS8-L4&e=>
· Hazzem
· Mirjana
· Bill
· Meikal
· Michael
· Missing reports from:
·         Denis
·         Mats
3.      IN Script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis (homework from Oct 2018 F2F meeting)
· Michael https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t6f_5JK5YIaoHeYSAQYJfXrW-AFnlkezJ9zwP20xidE/edit#heading=h.v9grc3xvxl8k [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1t6f-5F5JK5YIaoHeYSAQYJfXrW-2DAFnlkezJ9zwP20xidE_edit-23heading-3Dh.v9grc3xvxl8k&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=pDdRTnJx8vANNm1sIMonRWgdc83RRFTHCzwov5eEflQ&e=>
· Mirjana https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ggZHyg35k_2eplhrGA0wy34U5TeUMi6FM-M-Im1qe6c/edit?usp=sharing [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1ggZHyg35k-5F2eplhrGA0wy34U5TeUMi6FM-2DM-2DIm1qe6c_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=-BOahZPdXbNcodOPgvJ9IJ0bhFWx_4vGqNdipYy_fs4&e=>
· Bill https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nfm-1A8Keomj0DP_IJcgJm62EFdUJRq7HP0CHV1_UrQ/edit [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1Nfm-2D1A8Keomj0DP-5FIJcgJm62EFdUJRq7HP0CHV1-5FUrQ_edit&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=VkUhmMIX20e8Pbp0t8XbtXAr8qprrfdR0B0yPTjUCtc&e=>
· Hazem https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXM4xL5xh9My1QYIVwWrJqJ6djfRr7Ncz0IyNRFXCKI/edit?usp=sharing [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1wXM4xL5xh9My1QYIVwWrJqJ6djfRr7Ncz0IyNRFXCKI_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=rei22_nIfOGeMEiAl048IMOmyxrxPVGUFsQOHmMEh14&e=>
· Meikal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fjxdwx_eRep94Xp5YcidiA_4svV73MFc8wLGM2zvdgk/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs[docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1fjxdwx-5FeRep94Xp5YcidiA-5F4svV73MFc8wLGM2zvdgk_edit-23heading-3Dh.gjdgxs&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=9Obmkn4iR9MqTZfOooZq0KHTfB2YT2dxH-azf5pJe6E&e=>
· Dennis https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GgawEKKwrvC8P0UAuB5DAka1P13s98HEvp2kxn0cM5Q/edit[docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1GgawEKKwrvC8P0UAuB5DAka1P13s98HEvp2kxn0cM5Q_edit&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=tZxA0eXtmSYkLtDPEaRyoeHCmdDClSVSNks5Ty6nsWA&e=>
· Mats,
https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAnalysis-homeworks/MatsDufberg-In-Script%20Non-Visual%20Variant%20Discovery%20Analysis.rtfd [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_home_Latin-2520GP_InScriptVariants_InScriptVariantAnalysis-2Dhomeworks_MatsDufberg-2DIn-2DScript-2520Non-2DVisual-2520Variant-2520Discovery-2520Analysis.rtfd&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=WfaFF-ypYFYW8lAqI1-7Cenv1Rtb4lWzCwQeubiQTAs&e=>



4.      Meikal’s Template for Appendix D on Variants

https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=file%2cdocx&authkey=!AJa6cA3tJQ27DgI [onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view.aspx-3Fresid-3D10C636851F7DD403-21612296-26ithint-3Dfile-252cdocx-26authkey-3D-21AJa6cA3tJQ27DgI&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=UbtQ6dJlrkS5QV25mF9FzvOXTG2PzqTR4kpUV4gW8T4&e=>

5.      Bill’s table with code points collected for visual similarity analysis
https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-ScriptVariantAnalysis-SimilarityReview.xlsx?role=personal [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_preview_Latin-2520GP_InScriptVariants_Bill-2D-2520In-2DScriptVariantAnalysis-2DSimilarityReview.xlsx-3Frole-3Dpersonal&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=G-fsMpIqjec8TA1xhYkgKsUeLMQnTuVcMqj7R8VI_Mk&e=>


6.      Underlining analysis table (Bill’s version)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FZmntXOan_7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC_GxWEfAmmOMkU/edit#gid=0 [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_19FZmntXOan-5F7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC-5FGxWEfAmmOMkU_edit-23gid-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=qpV-uAZ3hipF10_GxcZJolxqirf-9iiJibpZ7HDA4sQ&s=Ko6dzAgCywIvey9nOJj9bracHbjbsjTecuPF2GiGiJE&e=>



Regards,
Pitinan
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