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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear GP members,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I must admit that I don’t understand this discussion. I think that we should finish the analysis of the Variants as we started. Then we shall have some results which could be discussed by Panel. After the discussion we shall decide are
we satisfied with the results, and what should be our next steps.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards Mirjana<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Bill Jouris <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Bill Jouris <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, June 1, 2018 at 10:17<br>
<b>To: </b>"Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka@verisign.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Latin GP <LatinGP@icann.org>, Meikal Mumin <meikal.mumin@uni-koeln.de>, Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Latingp] Variant cross-script analysis worksheets<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><a name="_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">Yet my recollection is rather otherwise. What I recall is:<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">1) While several of us on the Variants working group argued for a "relatively liberal" approach,
you insisted on an extremely narrow criteria. Since you were Chair, that's what got recorded.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">2) Eventually, we submitted questions to the IP. Questions that you (very skillfully!) worded
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">3) We had further arguments, based on increased familiarity with previous ICANN documents, on
expert opinions from the linguists among us, and on individual discussions that some of us had the IP members - who expressed rather different views that you got previously.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">4) Repeat of #2<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">5) The current discussion.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">I share the feeling of déjà vu. Perhaps this time we can achieve something better. Alternatively,
you can write the report on Variants that you so clearly want, and some of the other members of the working group can write a separate report which reflects our views. Give the IP complete packages to review.
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bill.jouris@insidethestack.com<br>
831-659-8360<br>
925-855-9512 (direct)<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">
"Tan Tanaka, Dennis via Latingp" <latingp@icann.org><br>
<b>To:</b> Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs>; Meikal Mumin <meikal.mumin@uni-koeln.de>; Latin GP <LatinGP@icann.org>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 1, 2018 8:15 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Latingp] Variant cross-script analysis worksheets</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">I cannot help but think this is déjà vu. We started out very liberal as to our approach for variants
in the Latin script and this panel submitted its proposal to IP for review in two separate occasions,
</span></span><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9jf1ThZFL4Ga0hhTTZndk1JNVE/view?ths=true" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">early</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">
and </span></span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RNXPxAsquUJSQ5jRimMYjz3Es_sX-f1JRhi4Cbwdegc/edit#heading=h.d488q8e5wxm4" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">mid</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">
2017. The IP provided its feedback in those two opportunities (</span></span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMLHw5ahtqmkB07zOJacvRUX-BHjXxXD-u9E9Beb4FQ/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">March
22</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black"> and
</span></span><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/ra8odr5ksd82goz/Principles%20for%20repertoire%20and%20variants%20-%20Feedback%20from%20IP.pdf?dl=0" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">October
18</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">) and the variant sub-group adjusted course based on the feedback received.
During the Brussels workshop in Jan 2018 (a year later after work started) the same questions were raised again (by newcomers), so we decided to have an impromptu phone call with the IP to have them explain their guidance. They came back with the same response,
and provided examples to that end. This is what led us to rewrite the </span></span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IrT_kfildf1SumYUqjkaIkMT-TYx9IRqtuPMV4YvKXU/edit#heading=h.5xs6hwfrrh41" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">principles
for variant inclusion</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">Dennis<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">From:
</span></b></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 31, 2018 at 2:40 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Meikal Mumin <meikal.mumin@uni-koeln.de>, Dennis Tan Tanaka <dtantanaka@verisign.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Latin GP <LatinGP@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] Variant cross-script analysis worksheets<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">Dear Colleagues,<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">My opinion on this matter is the same as Meikal stated in this mail. We should make our own interpretation
of rules and guidelines and stick to it. In the further discussion with IP we could modify our findings if there is enough reasons for it.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">Regards Mirjana<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">From:
</span></b></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">Latin GP <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Meikal Mumin <meikal.mumin@uni-koeln.de><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 31, 2018 at 10:00<br>
<b>To: </b>"Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka@verisign.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Latin GP <LatinGP@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Latingp] Variant cross-script analysis worksheets<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">personally, I think we should conduct our own data-driven analysis based on our own interpretation
of the rules and guidelines, and then ask IP for a review. After all, we are the community and it is our choice - they are only the ones to judge wether we meet the common criteria. That would be in line we the view they expressed, that the GPs are to guide
IP.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">On 31 May 2018 at 15:14, Tan Tanaka, Dennis <</span></span><a href="mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">dtantanaka@verisign.com</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">It would be helpful if we could get the IP to issue an statement on the points you are raising
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">-Dennis<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<b>Reply-To: </b>"</span></span><a href="mailto:bill.jouris@insidethestack.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">bill.jouris@insidethestack.com</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">"
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, May 30, 2018 at 5:24 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Dennis Tan Tanaka <</span></span><a href="mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">dtantanaka@verisign.com</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">>,
Meikal Mumin <</span></span><a href="mailto:meikal.mumin@uni-koeln.de" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">meikal.mumin@uni-koeln.de</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">>,
Michael Bauland <</span></span><a href="mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Michael.Bauland@knipp.de</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">>,
Sarmad Hussain <</span></span><a href="mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">sarmad.hussain@icann.org</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Latin GP <</span></span><a href="mailto:LatinGP@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">LatinGP@icann.org</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] Variant cross-script analysis worksheets<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">And yet, in speaking with members of the IP (at San Juan), on the subject of the Least Astonishment
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">And said further (on the matter of the breve and caron) "When I am typing something that includes
one of them, I have to copy and paste because I can't tell which I am lookIng at." In short, while the two diacritics are clearly not identical, at least with sufficient magnification, as far as he was concerned there was no reason that they could not be
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">What constitutes "identical in appearance" depends enormously on just how much magnification is
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Tan Tanaka, Dennis<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 10:14 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Bill Jouris <</span></span><a href="mailto:bill.jouris@insidethestack.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">bill.jouris@insidethestack.com</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">>,
Dennis Tan Tanaka <</span></span><a href="mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">dtantanaka@verisign.com</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">>,
Michael Bauland <</span></span><a href="mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Michael.Bauland@knipp.de</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">>,
Sarmad Hussain <</span></span><a href="mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">sarmad.hussain@icann.org</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Latin GP <</span></span><a href="mailto:LatinGP@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">LatinGP@icann.org</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">><br>
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similarity of appearance to be outside the scope of the Root Zone LGR. In admitting exact homoglyphs, the IP has been making the argument that ‘e’ in Latin (U+0065) and ‘е’ in Cyrillic(U+0435) are not just visually indistinguishable, but that their distinct
code points effectively represent a disunification by script property.”</span></i></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black"> – Email from IP to Latin GP of 18 October 2017 in
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