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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">Mirjana,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">Since I promised to review the second-level LGRs to see if there are any characters in any of those languages that we have not include I have also done that and this is my findings (Bill
and Meikal have at least looked at some of them):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">U+00FF is included for French. Omniglot does not list it, but Wikipedia does.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">U+0157 is included for Latvian. Omniglog does not list it. Wikipedia does, but today only used in diaspora (as Meikal pointed out).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">The other missing code-points from Latin Extended-A were not found.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">Code points I looked at:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">00FF LATIN SMALL LETTER Y WITH DIAERESIS (French)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">0109 LATIN SMALL LETTER C WITH CIRCUMFLEX<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">0125 LATIN SMALL LETTER H WITH CIRCUMFLEX<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">0135 LATIN SMALL LETTER J WITH CIRCUMFLEX<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">014F LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH BREVE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">0157 LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH CEDILLA (Latvian)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">0163 LATIN SMALL LETTER T WITH CEDILLA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">0177 LATIN SMALL LETTER Y WITH CIRCUMFLEX<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">The LGRs can be found at
<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/second-level-lgr-2015-06-21-en">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/second-level-lgr-2015-06-21-en</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">*<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">A comment to Bill and Meikal:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">The LGR for German and Spanish lists U+014F (ŏ) LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH BREVE as *<b>excluded</b>* not as included. You have to go down to “repertoire by code point” to see what is
included. They also have a concept of “extended code point” which is in between included and excluded, e.g. U+00E0 for Spanish.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">Ÿ (U+00FF) is neither included in English nor German.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New"">Mats<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Mats Dufberg</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Mobile: +46 73 065 3899</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black"><a href="https://www.iis.se/en/"><span style="color:#954F72">https://www.iis.se/en/</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Latingp <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Meikal Mumin <meikal.mumin@uni-koeln.de><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, 23 July 2018 at 00:11<br>
<b>To: </b>Bill Jouris <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>ICANN Latin GP <latingp@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Latingp] Repertoire and Latin Extended A<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear colleagues,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 22 July 2018 at 21:49, Bill Jouris <<a href="mailto:bill.jouris@insidethestack.com" target="_blank">bill.jouris@insidethestack.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">I've reviewed the repertoire we have (after adding Esperanto) and compared it to the Unicode table's Basic Latin, Latin-1 Supplement, and Latin
Extended-A codepoints. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">The following entries from Latin-1 Supplement are included in MSR-2, but not included in our repertoire:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">00FF ÿ Latin Small Letter Y with Diaeresis<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This occurs rarely in personal names in German <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%B8#Franz%C3%B6sisch" target="_blank">
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%B8#Franz%C3%B6sisch</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">and in French in place names amongst others (<a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%B8#Fran%C3%A7ais" target="_blank">https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%B8#Fran%C3%A7ais</a>).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">The following entries from Latin Extended-A are included in MSR-3 but not included in our repertoire:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">0157 ŗ Latin Small Letter R with Cedilla<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">ÿ is listed in the ICANN LGRs for German and for English (much to my amazement, as I have never encountered it previously), but does not appear
in Omniglot, nor in the Wikipedia alphabet referenced in the LGR, for either language.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A quick search did not yield any evidence for English, but German - see above.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;background:white">A quick search did not yield any supporting evidence.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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This <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%96" target="_blank">https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%96</a> says it was used historically in Lativian. This <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_orthography" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_orthography</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black"><a href="https://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/packages/lgr/lgr-second-level-german-30aug16-en.html" target="_blank">LGR for language deu-Latn
— German</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is way larger than the set of characters used in German, even taking into consideration loans and borrowings from other languages. I would be interested to know who developed this on what basis. Some sources are 404.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black"><a href="https://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/packages/lgr/lgr-second-level-english-30aug16-en.html" target="_blank">LGR for language
eng-Latn — English <br>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">LGR for language eng-Latn — English<o:p></o:p></span></h2>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black"><a href="https://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/packages/lgr/lgr-second-level-spanish-30aug16-en.html" target="_blank">LGR for language
spa-Latn — Spanish</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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