<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11184"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11183">Agreed   3 2 3</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11185"> </div><div class="signature">Bill Jouris<br>Inside Products<br>bill.jouris@insidethestack.com<br>831-659-8360<br>925-855-9512 (direct)</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11186"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11193" style="display: block;">  <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11192"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11191"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11190"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11189" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11188"><span style="font-weight:bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11187">From:</span></b> Meikal Mumin <meikal.mumin@uni-koeln.de><br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11195"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11194">To:</span></b> Mats Dufberg <mats.dufberg@iis.se> <br><b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11197"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11196">Cc:</span></b> "latingp@icann.org" <latingp@icann.org><br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11199"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11198">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 2, 2018 9:56 AM<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11201"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11200">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Latingp] Latin-Cyrillic cross-script analysis<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11202"><br><div id="yiv1286119165"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11204"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11203">I agree. We should add a variant set for these and my vote would be 3 2 3</div><div class="yiv1286119165gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533228754445_11205"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv1286119165gmail_quote">On 30 July 2018 at 12:45, Mats Dufberg <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mats.dufberg@iis.se" target="_blank" href="mailto:mats.dufberg@iis.se">mats.dufberg@iis.se</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv1286119165gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">





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<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">I looked at the material and then I wondered why U+045F CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER DZHE is matched to U+1EF1 LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH HORN AND DOT BELOW and not to U+1EE5 LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH DOT BELOW (which is also
 in our repertoire). I think that U+045F and U+1EE5 are more similar than U+045F and U+1EF1.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">First displayed as text in the mail:<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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</span></span><span lang="EN-US">1EF1<span class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109apple-tab-span">  </span>045F<span class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109apple-tab-span"> 
</span></span><span class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109s1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" lang="EN-US">1EE5</span></span><span class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109p1"><span lang="EN-US">Times:<span class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109apple-tab-span">                  
</span>ự<span class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109apple-tab-span">        </span></span>џ<span class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109apple-tab-span"><span lang="EN-US">       
</span></span><span lang="EN-US">ụ<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109p3"><span lang="EN-US">Helvetica:<span class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109apple-tab-span">            
</span>ự<span class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109apple-tab-span">       </span></span>џ<span class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109apple-tab-span"><span lang="EN-US">       
</span></span><span lang="EN-US">ụ<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109p2"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109p4"><span lang="EN-US">Courier new:<span class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109apple-tab-span"> </span>
ự<span class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109apple-tab-span">   </span></span>џ<span class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109apple-tab-span"><span lang="EN-US">  
</span></span><span lang="EN-US">ụ<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109p2"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Here as a picture:<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Yours,<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Mats<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">---<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Mats Dufberg<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">From: Latingp <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:latingp-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:latingp-bounces@icann.org">latingp-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of ICANN Latin GP <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:latingp@icann.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:latingp@icann.org">latingp@icann.org</a>><u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">Reply-To: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com">dtantanaka@verisign.com</a>><u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">Date: Monday, 30 July 2018 at 04:57<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">To: "<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de" target="_blank" href="mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de">Michael.Bauland@knipp.de</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de" target="_blank" href="mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de">Michael.Bauland@knipp.de</a>>, ICANN Latin GP <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:latingp@icann.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:latingp@icann.org">latingp@icann.org</a>><u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">Subject: Re: [Latingp] Latin-Cyrillic cross-script analysis<u></u><u></u></div><div><div class="yiv1286119165h5">
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText"><u></u> <u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">    Latin GP,<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">    <u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">    Based on Michael's and Bill's input I have resolved all the pending cases. These are highlighted as <green>include</green> or <red>excluded</red> in each of the sets. Review the comments for context as well.<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">    <u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">    Please review the revised doc and provide any other comments you may have.
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<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">    <u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">    Thanks,<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">    Dennis<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">    <u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">    On 7/27/18, 11:30 AM, "Latingp on behalf of Michael Bauland" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:latingp-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:latingp-bounces@icann.org">latingp-bounces@icann.org</a> on behalf of <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de" target="_blank" href="mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de">Michael.Bauland@knipp.de</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">    <u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        Hi all,<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        <u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        On 26.07.2018 21:12, Bill Jouris wrote:<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        > I have reviewed these.  In several cases, I believe it is possible to<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        > resolve the issue using the same principle:<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        > When both inspectors have the same rating for the highest ranked font,<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        > and the only difference is between fonts, there seems no reason to look<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        > further. Just take the agreed highest rating (for example 2) and move on.<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        <u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        I agree with Bill. We decided to look at several fonts in order to find<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        more cases for possible variants (not to find less cases). Therefore it<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        makes sense to always take the rating from the highest ranked font. In<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        case both inspectors agree, there is nothing more to do.<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        <u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        <u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        > I also noticed a couple of cases where the first inspector had a rating<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        > of 5 (i.e. no candidate found) while the second inspector had something<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        > else.  Perhaps the first inspector could go back and consider the<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        > candidate which, apparently, arose after his initial inspection.  Even<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        > if that results in a rating of 4 (different), it would at least give us<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        > someplace to start discussion.<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        <u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        Done. Those were my cases and I changed my original 5 to the rating<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        referring to the newly found candidate.<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        <u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        Furthermore I added my vote to the occasions were first and second<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        inspector disagreed (and Bill's suggestion from above does not work). If<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        the others could do the same, we could probably apply some majority vote.<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        <u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        Have a nice weekend<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        <u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">        Michael<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="yiv1286119165m_-643519911937162109MsoPlainText">             Dr. Michael Bauland         SIP:    <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de" target="_blank" href="mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de">Michael.Bauland@knipp.de</a><u></u><u></u></div>
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