<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6645"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6706">For my candidates, I would say that the differences between them are on the order of the differences between different fonts. Which is what you are trying to use as a criteria, right? <br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6869"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6706"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6888" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6706">I don't believe that these are ALL of the pairs which would meet even that criteria. But I think they constitute additional members.<br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6734"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6706"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6827"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6706">I would also ask, however, what are we trying to accomplish with the identification of variants? I submit that our goal is to make the Internet more usable for its user community. If two code points are indistinguishable, how does it help to insist that they are not variants? If the average user will not notice the difference, how does that help them? (I can see how it helps the bottom line of companies which make money registering domain names. After all, it means more defensive registrations. But that isn't of any particular benefit to the general Internet user community.) <br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6828"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6706"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6705"> </div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6834">Bill Jouris<br>Inside Products<br>bill.jouris@insidethestack.com<br>831-659-8360<br>925-855-9512 (direct)</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6843"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6850" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6849"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6848"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6847"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6846" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6845"><span style="font-weight:bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6844">From:</span></b> "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka@verisign.com><br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6911"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6910">To:</span></b> "bill.jouris@insidethestack.com" <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com>; "latingp@icann.org" <latingp@icann.org> <br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6852"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535478351528_6851">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 23, 2018 12:23 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Latingp] Draft in-script variants<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv8883601175"><style>#yiv8883601175 #yiv8883601175 --
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<div class="yiv8883601175MsoNormal">Interesting point of view re:Marshallese . Let’s bring it up when we get to review in-script variants. For the time being please provide evidence of your candidates.</div>
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<div class="yiv8883601175MsoNormal">Thanks,</div>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Bill Jouris <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com><br clear="none">
<b>Reply-To: </b>Bill Jouris <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com><br clear="none">
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 3:05 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To: </b>Dennis Tan Tanaka <dtantanaka@verisign.com>, "latingp@icann.org" <latingp@icann.org><br clear="none">
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] Draft in-script variants</span></div>
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<div class="yiv8883601175MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background:white;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">As far as I can see, all of the Marshallese references are to justify exclusion. Not inclusion. What am I missing?
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<div class="yiv8883601175MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background:white;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">For in-script variants IP asked we provide evidence of the variant relationship. Since the cases you are proposing do not
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<b>Reply-To: </b>Bill Jouris <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com><br clear="none">
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 11:54 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To: </b>"latingp@icann.org" <latingp@icann.org><br clear="none">
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] Draft in-script variants</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;">I've taken the liberty of adding a couple dozen additional candidates. (I held off the Rating 2 cases. These are the slam dunks.)
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<b>To:</b> "latingp@icann.org" <latingp@icann.org> <br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 22, 2018 7:43 PM<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv8883601175MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background:white;"><span style="">Here is the compilation of current in-script variant candidates for our review during tomorrow’s call.</span></div>
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