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<p class="MsoNormal">I spotted one typo (fixed now). Other than that, I’m good with the latest draft. Thank you.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 3:31 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Latin GP <latingp@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] ACTION NEEDED: New version of the response to IP on :Diacritics below a security risk?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I have completed my amendments and additions to the letter, and would like to suggest to submit it with additonal formatting and spell-checking only. If any questions in there are redundant or repetitve, I don't
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 19:53, Meikal Mumin <<a href="mailto:meikal.mumin@uni-koeln.de">meikal.mumin@uni-koeln.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I would like to suggest that we leave out all our emotions. Discussions around the LGR are a complex matter, and the GP is supposed to reflect different views and reflect a certain level of diversity precisely to
 avoid systemic bias and to find a balanced approach suiting all relevant stakeholders, not just certain industries. I certainly see "good faith efforts" in everyones contributions, but it is always difficult to accurately reflect differing or even opposing
 views and to even become aware of those differences. Therefore I find it important to voice all our concerns and questions, even if some may not be shared by all members of the GP. Finally there is no harm in being superflous or redundant in our communcation
 with IP. It is part of their mandate to advice the GPs so there time and efforts are covered for by ICANN.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Regarding the document, I think we have settled most issues, Mirjana, except for some formatting issues. I only need to amend the final paragraph, but I'm looking for some resources and I had asked Dennis again
 to kindly help me find the resources I had commented on earlier - it is about comments I made regarding hand-writing where I would like to have a clear and written response by IP to settle that debate - also in my own mind (Sorry to hold up things - but I
 get lost with the constant copying and changing of documents. It completely breaks the chain of transmission of knowledge and certain debates for me.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 18:54, Bill Jouris <<a href="mailto:bill.jouris@insidethestack.com" target="_blank">bill.jouris@insidethestack.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">- You crafted the initial page of the document.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">- Mirjana asked that we have final comment by Monday (yesterday)
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">I just can't see that as a good-faith effort to be helpful.  
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <<a href="mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com" target="_blank">dtantanaka@verisign.com</a>><br>
<b>To:</b> "<a href="mailto:bill.jouris@insidethestack.com" target="_blank">bill.jouris@insidethestack.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:bill.jouris@insidethestack.com" target="_blank">bill.jouris@insidethestack.com</a>>; "<a href="mailto:Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs" target="_blank">Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs</a>"
 <<a href="mailto:Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs" target="_blank">Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs</a>>; "<a href="mailto:latingp@icann.org" target="_blank">latingp@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:latingp@icann.org" target="_blank">latingp@icann.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:13 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Latingp] ACTION NEEDED: New version of the response to IP on :Diacritics below a security risk?</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Bill, I take issue with your last email. If anything, I was trying to be helpful and move things forward. Please note this document
 has been idle for the past week waiting to resolve the edits. If the revised version fell short of your expectations you are welcome to observe it, like everyone else.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Reply-To: </b>Bill Jouris <<a href="mailto:bill.jouris@insidethestack.com" target="_blank">bill.jouris@insidethestack.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, September 17, 2018 at 5:07 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Dennis Tan Tanaka <<a href="mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com" target="_blank">dtantanaka@verisign.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs" target="_blank">Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs</a>" <<a href="mailto:Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs" target="_blank">Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs</a>>,
 "<a href="mailto:latingp@icann.org" target="_blank">latingp@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:latingp@icann.org" target="_blank">latingp@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] ACTION NEEDED: New version of the response to IP on :Diacritics below a security risk?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Gosh, Dennis, what a blatant effort to make sure that the IP does not say something which would conflict with your preferred view!  I am in awe!
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<b>To:</b> "<a href="mailto:Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs" target="_blank">Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs</a>" <<a href="mailto:Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs" target="_blank">Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs</a>>; "<a href="mailto:latingp@icann.org" target="_blank">latingp@icann.org</a>"
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 17, 2018 1:31 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Latingp] ACTION NEEDED: New version of the response to IP on :Diacritics below a security risk?</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 8:24 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Latin GP <<a href="mailto:latingp@icann.org" target="_blank">latingp@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] [Latingp] ACTION NEEDED: New version of the response to IP on :Diacritics below a security risk?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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