<html><head></head><body><div class="ydpc4807537yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div>Right.  But I was referring to the four domain names I had at the beginning of this email thread.  (As you say, it's hard to spot those below-the-line diacritics even when you know to look specifically for them.)</div><div><br></div><div class="ydpc4807537signature">Bill Jouris<br>Inside Products<br>bill.jouris@insidethestack.com<br>831-659-8360<br>925-855-9512 (direct)</div></div>
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                    On Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 7:11:12 PM EDT, Hazem Hezzah <hhezzah.las@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div>I went through all the letters. There are also cases for a, e, d , i, n, m 
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial';COLOR:#008000;">Regards,<br clear="none">Hazem 
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<div style=""><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="bill.jouris@insidethestack.com" ymailto="mailto:bill.jouris@insidethestack.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:bill.jouris@insidethestack.com">Bill Jouris</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 07, 2019 11:00 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="latingp@icann.org" ymailto="mailto:latingp@icann.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:latingp@icann.org">latingp@icann.org</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="hhezzah.las@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:hhezzah.las@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:hhezzah.las@gmail.com">Hazem Hezzah</a> 
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Latingp] Diacritics Below</div></div></div></div>
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<div>Just one other passing note: </div>
<div>In case you missed it, in addition to the diacritics under the letter L, 
there were a couple cases of a diacritic under S or T. </div>
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<div>On Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 4:41:20 PM EDT, Hazem Hezzah 
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<div>Dear all,</div>
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<div>I went again through all combinations in the sheet, and could only see that 
there is a diacritic below because I’m intentionally looking at it. Specially 
those with dot, line and macron below.</div>
<div>As I said in the previous call, a normal user would not notice a 
difference, so my personal opinion would be to consider at least code points 
having those 3 diacritics as variants. </div>
<div>This decision would of course would limit the use of IDNs.</div>
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<div>Open for discussion.   </div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial';COLOR:#008000;">Regards,<br clear="none">Hazem Hezzah</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="meikal@mumin.de" ymailto="mailto:meikal@mumin.de" target="_blank" href="mailto:meikal@mumin.de">Meikal 
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 06, 2019 2:46 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="latingp@icann.org" ymailto="mailto:latingp@icann.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:latingp@icann.org">latingp@icann.org</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="Michael.Bauland@knipp.de" ymailto="mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de" target="_blank" href="mailto:Michael.Bauland@knipp.de">Michael 
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Latingp] Diacritics Below</div></div></div></div>
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<div>Dear colleagues, 
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<div>If you can't tell which diacritic is used, that would logically be a case 
for a variant relationship between all potential options, but not the unmodified 
basic letter shape itself. </div></div>
<div><br clear="none">Best,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Meikal</div>
<div>Am 6. Mai 2019, 14:34 +0200 schrieb Michael Bauland 
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<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT:10px;MARGIN:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#1abc9c thin solid;" type="cite">Hi Bill,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 02.05.2019 17:33, Bill 
  Jouris wrote:<br clear="none">
  <blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT:10px;MARGIN:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#e67e22 thin solid;" type="cite">Dear colleagues, <br clear="none"><br clear="none">I would like to 
    show why I think the various diacritics below (not just<br clear="none">dot 
    and macron) ought to be accounted variants as well.  And I thought<br clear="none">I'd do it as an email, because that's likely to be the way (along 
    with<br clear="none">links on web pages) that most people will get 
    links.  <br clear="none"><br clear="none">By way of example, consider one 
    of the original TLDs: .mil <br clear="none"><br clear="none">_www.teștexampļe1.mil <http://www.xn--exampe-0cb.mil/>_<br clear="none">_www.testexampḽe2.mil _<br clear="none">www.testexample3.miḽ 
    <http://www.testexample3.miḽ><br clear="none">_www.tesțexample4.miļ 
    <http://www.example.xn--mi-gqa/>_<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Can you 
    honestly say that you can tell which cases of .mil have<br clear="none">diacritcs under the L?<br clear="none"></blockquote><br clear="none">
  <blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT:10px;MARGIN:5px;BORDER-LEFT:#e67e22 thin solid;" type="cite">And if you think you can, did you notice which<br clear="none">cases of "testexample" had them? And which diacritic? Because I 
    sure<br clear="none">can't.<br clear="none"></blockquote><br clear="none">Yes, I can 
  honestly say that I can see something under the l of example<br clear="none">for 
  the first two cases and something under the l of mil in the last two<br clear="none">cases (plus some other strange things under s in the first and t in 
  the<br clear="none">last case.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Which diacritic 
  however, is something I could not tell.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Furthermore in the first and the last case the actual link didn't 
  match<br clear="none">shown address, but that's a complete different problem, 
  out of our scope.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Best regards,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Michael<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">--<br clear="none">____________________________________________________________________<br clear="none">| |<br clear="none">| knipp | Knipp Medien und Kommunikation GmbH<br clear="none">------- Technologiepark<br clear="none">Martin-Schmeisser-Weg 9<br clear="none">44227 Dortmund<br clear="none">Germany<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Dipl.-Informatiker Fon: +49 231 9703-0<br clear="none">Fax: +49 231 
  9703-200<br clear="none">Dr. Michael Bauland SIP: Michael.Bauland@knipp.de<br clear="none">Software Development E-mail: Michael.Bauland@knipp.de<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Register Court:<br clear="none">Amtsgericht Dortmund, 
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