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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Tijani<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I completely agree and thank you for your proposal. We need to get different models up that people can see the issue from different perspectives and hopefully understand the complexities. From their discussions we will hopefully achieve a text that clearly explains the process, what is required and how it will be. I know that it is not going to be an easy task. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am looking forward to meeting up with everyone in BA. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Maureen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Tijani BENJEMAA [mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 4 November 2013 1:48 p.m.<br><b>To:</b> 'Silvia Vivanco'; 'Maureen Hilyard'; 'ICANN At-Large Staff'; 'METRICS '<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Metrics.SC] Meeting invitation/ At-Large Metrics call - Thursday 07 November 2013- RALOs lack of feedback<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Maureen,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m so sorry for the late reply. I read your proposal, and find it good.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I already proposed more than one year ago a similar proposal, and I updated it today and posted it on the wiki.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We will need now to concentrate on compiling all the proposed texts for a comprehensive and precise one that we walk through to enrich it till we reach consensus on a final version.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Tijani BEN JEMAA<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Executive Director<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>(<b>FMAI</b>)</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Phone: + 216 41 649 605<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Mobile: + 216 98 330 114<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Fax: + 216 70 853 376<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De :</span></b><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:metrics.sc-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">metrics.sc-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:metrics.sc-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">mailto:metrics.sc-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>] <b>De la part de</b> Silvia Vivanco<br><b>Envoyé :</b> lundi 4 novembre 2013 20:01<br><b>À :</b> Maureen Hilyard; ICANN At-Large Staff; 'METRICS '<br><b>Objet :</b> Re: [Metrics.SC] Meeting invitation/ At-Large Metrics call - Thursday 07 November 2013- RALOs lack of feedback<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Maureen,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The lack of feedback to your comments may also be a result of the IGF meeting, where many RALO Leaders were present. I sent your comments to the RALO Secretariat’s mailists last week and had no reaction. (see below) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I would suggest that you bring up this in the RALO Secretariat’s meeting in Buenos Aires (most likely to be this coming Friday). I am contacting RALO leaders via Skype to see if we can get them to attend the next RALO Sec calls this coming Friday.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Please accept my Skype request for friendship so we can set up 3 way Skype chats with RALO Leaders so that they come prepared to discuss metrics in Buenos Aires. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Silvia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Silvia Vivanco</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Telephone: + 1 (202) 570-7119<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Cell/Mobile: +1 (202) 735-7011<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-PE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:metrics.sc-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">metrics.sc-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:metrics.sc-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">mailto:metrics.sc-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Maureen Hilyard<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 03, 2013 4:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> ICANN At-Large Staff; 'METRICS '<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Metrics.SC] Meeting invitation/ At-Large Metrics call - Thursday 07 November 2013<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-PE><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi all<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I tried to include a comment on the Metrics workspace but although I couldn’t get the editor to load I was able to create a new page.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I wanted to put something forward for discussion and feedback and have used the ALS model which someone very kindly set up on the “ALS Metrics Should do” page. I also based it on the new ALAC ROPS Section 9. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I would like some feedback on whether it is appropriate to propose it to the RALO Secretariat. Despite leaving messages on their workspace and asking for some feedback, I have had nothing. Their last week’s meeting was cancelled. I’m wondering if perhaps they would prefer something to pick on in order to get a reaction.. and I’m quite happy to propose something that will hopefully at least get them talking.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Anyway for those who would like to check out what I’ve been working on. Its on: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Could+do+workspace+-+ALAC+Metrics+-+discussion">https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Could+do+workspace+-+ALAC+Metrics+-+discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060'>(just another page to add to the system… I would rather have had a link that started off with https://community.icann.org/AtLarge/METRICS.SC/… so we could all find our Metrics pages more easily).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#002060'>Maureen</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:metrics.sc-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">metrics.sc-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:metrics.sc-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">mailto:metrics.sc-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>ICANN At-Large Staff<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 1 November 2013 9:49 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> METRICS <br><b>Subject:</b> [Metrics.SC] Meeting invitation/ At-Large Metrics call - Thursday 07 November 2013<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Dear all,</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The next <b>At-Large Metrics Working Group</b> call is scheduled on<u> <b>Thursday 07 November at 1300 UTC for 90 minutes.</b></u><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>For other times:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue;background:white'><a href="http://tinyurl.com/l4xldsd">http://tinyurl.com/l4xldsd</a></span></u><span 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