<html><head></head><body>Hi,<div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">If I’m understanding this correctly, then I’d agree with Hadia on this. The GNSO has been working on PDP 3.0 for quite some time (considerably longer than the Evolving ICANN’s MSM project has been going on), and like Rafik said, there should be some very tangible outcomes very soon. I believe the general intent of PDP 3.0 (I stand to be corrected on this) is to enhance the efficiency of the the GNSO’s PDP, and improve participation from other ICANN SOs/ACs in gTLD policy development.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">It might lead to less openness in participation in PDPs There will likely be PDPs moving forward, which are not open to general public membership in WGs. Instead, at least some will likely be populated with fixed representation from different ICANN SOs/ACs, similar to the Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data EPDP Team, however, in certain circumstances, a tradeoff of less openness (not an absence of open participation) in order to improve efficiency might take place. This would only be one of many aspects of attempted improvements using PDP 3.0.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Still…, as Hadia says, I’d advise that the outcome of implementation of PDP 3.0 be reviewed prior to supporting a parallel process to achieve the same objectives the GNSO has been pursuing. Otherwise, ICANN might find itself dealing with two duplicative and competing processes taking place to improve efficiency of gTLD policy development.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">I hope this helps.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Thanks.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Amr<br class=""/><div><br class=""/><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:27 PM, Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <<a href="mailto:Hadia@tra.gov.eg" class="">Hadia@tra.gov.eg</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"/><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Dear Tijani,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Since I saw that you did not access the google document , I would like to share with you what I put on the google document with regard to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Issue 2 – Precision in Scoping Work, where I do not see it as part of the MSM because<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(60, 64, 67); letter-spacing: 0.15pt; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""> with regard to the scoping of ICANN work this is within the scope of PDP 3.0, again it is a suggested path that might provide a solution but is yet to be seen and any other suggestions we make is also a suggested path that will need to be seen, so why do we embark on a new path when we haven't seen the result of the existing yet. As with regard to the scoping of the work of the community, the community participates in the MEAC SWG and in the implementation phase so what other role are we suggesting? So are we suggesting creating some more community groups? I do not think this would be efficient, making better use of the existing ones and the existing process in this regard is better.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(60, 64, 67); letter-spacing: 0.15pt; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(60, 64, 67); letter-spacing: 0.15pt; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">Dear All, please continue providing your inputs<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(60, 64, 67); letter-spacing: 0.15pt; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(60, 64, 67); letter-spacing: 0.15pt; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">Best<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(60, 64, 67); letter-spacing: 0.15pt; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">Hadia<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(60, 64, 67); letter-spacing: 0.15pt; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""></span><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Middle-East [<a href="mailto:middle-east-bounces@icann.org" class="">mailto:middle-east-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tijani BEN JEMAA<br class=""/><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, October 08, 2019 7:17 PM<br class=""/><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Amr Elsadr<br class=""/><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Hadia El Miniawi; <a href="mailto:middle-east@icann.org" class="">middle-east@icann.org</a><br class=""/><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [ME ICANN] Montreal ME Space statement first draft for your comment<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 46, 122);" class="">Dear Amr,</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 46, 122);" class="">I do apologize for the confusion. I meant it’s implementation is not adopted, and is even not ready yet to be put for public comment.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 46, 122);" class="">@ Nadira, PDP 3.0 was proposed as potential solution in the public consultation we are responding to; that’s why I mentioned it.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 46, 122);" class="">Best</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 46, 122);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Le 8 oct. 2019 à 14:35, Amr Elsadr <<a href="mailto:aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja</a>> a écrit :<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Hi,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">For what it’s worth, my understanding is that the PDP 3.0 has been adopted quite a while ago, and should be fully implemented within the first quarter of 2020. There are regular updates on implementation of PDP 3.0 during monthly GNSO Council meetings. I’ve attached the slide deck from its September 2019 meeting, which includes the expected timeline to wrap up implementation.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">The slide deck can also be found under “Item 9” here: <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Documents+19+September+2019" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Documents+19+September+2019</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Thanks.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Amr<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><br class=""/><br class=""/><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Nadira Alaraj <<a href="mailto:nadira.araj@GMAIL.COM" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nadira.araj@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Thank you Tijani for your constructive feedback and suggestions.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">I'm in agreement except of this point <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: justify;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(4, 50, 255);" class="">The PDP 3.0 presented as possible solution can’t be considered since it’s is not yet adopted. We believe that this issue should be part of the MSM work plan</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Simply because those who know about the PDP 3.0 are very few. The statement has to reflect of the knowledge and understanding of the majority.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 14:33 Tijani BEN JEMAA <<a href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Dear Hadia and all,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file).<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: navy;" class="">------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""/><strong class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Tijani BENJEMAA</span></strong><br class=""/>Executive Director<br class=""/>Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (<strong class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">FMAI</span></strong>)<br class=""/>Telephone: +216 52 385 114<br class=""/>------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""/> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><PDP 3.0 Council Presentation - 19 Sep 2019 (v2).pdf><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Tijani BEN JEMAA</p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""/></div></body></html>