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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Jeff,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Is the idea here that the Sub Pro PDP can issue a policy recommendation on this issue? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Anne<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> NCAP-Discuss <ncap-discuss-bounces@icann.org> <b>
On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Neuman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 15, 2020 12:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> David Conrad <david.conrad@icann.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> ncap-discuss@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCAP-Discuss] [Ext] RE: Top-level Domains for Private Internets IETF draft<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Last response on this, I promise….<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have submitted the draft to the Subsequent Procedures PDP Working Group to discuss.
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Thanks all for engaging in this subject. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> David Conrad <<a href="mailto:david.conrad@icann.org">david.conrad@icann.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 15, 2020 3:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ncap-discuss@icann.org">ncap-discuss@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ext] RE: [NCAP-Discuss] Top-level Domains for Private Internets IETF draft<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jeff,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Jun 15, 2020, at 10:33 AM, Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Menlo-Regular">But what about in the future if someone in the IETF want to create a special use domain for IOT or what about a string that corresponds with a brand?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hence the proposal to use a set of strings that, because they are specified by the recognized authority (ISO-3166/MA) as assigned for user defined use, are not delegatable in the DNS according to existing policy. This is in contrast to
pretty much any other string as there is (AFAIK) no policy that says those (non-ISO-3166) strings can’t be used in some future new gTLD round. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Menlo-Regular">The only thing I am objecting to, to the extent I am even objecting, is that there seems to be some resistance to multi-organizational collaboration. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There is no resistance that I’m aware of (at least on the part of Roy, Ed, or myself). I’m unclear why you would interpret a document being published as an Internet Draft in the IETF as an attempt to “circumvent” the multistakeholder process.
I’ve asked in a previous message: <span style="color:black">where/how would you propose Roy and Ed publish their idea?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Menlo-Regular">Anyway, I think the main point is to encourage cross organizational discussions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Looks like there is indeed a lively discussion: <a href="https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop</a>, archives at <a href="https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dnsop/">https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dnsop/</a> (which
I’d probably recommend reviewing before jumping into the fray).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-drc<o:p></o:p></p>
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