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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The point I made at the end of the call is that the SSAC is on record taking the following position:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">In disagreeing with SubPro on whether Plurals and singulars should not be allowed on a go forward basis based on the concept of user confusion, the SSAC states:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">SAC 114</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo8"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">“</span>The SSAC stated in SAC103, and reaffirms here, that trying to determine confusability based on the meaning of words rather than the visual
 similarity of strings is fundamentally misguided. Domain names are not semantically words in any language, notwithstanding the obvious expectation that they will be recognized as such and that it drives applicants’ interest in specific new gTLD strings.” and<span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo8">“As pointed out in SAC103, which quoted RFC5894 a string has no context on its own prior to delegation and, while an applicant may have a particular context in mind, there is no
 guarantee that context will prevail indefinitely in practice. It is also questionable whether a majority of registrants or internet users will apply that same context, which may cause confusion and usability issues. I<span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">SAC 103 $ RFC 5894
<o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo9">“DNS labels and fully-qualified domain names provide mnemonics that assist in identifying and referring to resources on the Internet. … But domain "names" are not, in general, words
 in any language. The recommendations of the IETF policy on character sets and languages (BCP 18 [RFC2277]) are applicable to situations in which language identification is used to provide language-specific contexts. The DNS is, by contrast, global and international
 and ultimately has nothing to do with languages. Adding languages (or similar context) to IDNs generally, or to DNS matching in particular, would imply context-dependent matching in DNS, which would be a very significant change to the DNS protocol itself.
 It would also imply that users would need to identify the language associated with a particular label in order to look that label up. That knowledge is generally not available because many labels are not words in any language and some may be words in more
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Let me first state that I personally disagree with the SSAC and believe that it is naïve and overlooks reality when the SSAC states that domain names are not to be looked at as having meaning.  So I think
 SAC 103 and SAC 114 on this point is just plain wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">However, I see it as hypocritical for the SSAC to be taking the above positions when discussing IDNs, User confusion, string similarity, etc., but now all of sudden take a polar opposite position when it
 comes to looking at the potential harm of name collisions (pre-delegation) by stating that we should be looking at domain names prior to delegation as words.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">There needs to be consistency.  Either we look at domain names as words that have meaning or we don’t.  I personally am on the side of looking at domain names as having meaning when it comes to looking at
 potential harm, but that also means looking at them for purposes of consumer confusion, IDNs, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I hope that makes more sense. 
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> NCAP-Discuss <ncap-discuss-bounces@icann.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Aikman-Scalese, Anne via NCAP-Discuss<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 25, 2021 1:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Steve Sheng <steve.sheng@icann.org>; Kimberly Carlson <kimberly.carlson@icann.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> ncap-discuss@icann.org<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dear NCAP Co-Chairs and DG members,               
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Unfortunately a conflict came up for me with respect to yesterday’s call.  Many thanks for coming up with a set agenda for the Discussion Group meetings and reminding us of the Board questions that need to be
 answered.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">In reviewing the Zoom recording, I had one initial comment on the slide entitled “Overarching Principle of Identifying Harm”. Regarding the “attack vectors” mentioned, I think these need to be listed out individually
 in separate bullet points and perhaps defined a bit further in each case in order to help establish parameters for measurement of the magnitude of harm, e.g. via specific examples that apply.    Looking forward to a Study Two report, there will need to be
 sufficient background and definitions for non-technical members of the community to understand these attack vectors in plain language.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Reconnaisance/enumeration<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#1F497D;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">
MitM attacks (Man in the Middle attacks may need subgroups)<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#1F497D;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">
Internal document leakage<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#1F497D;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">
Personal document leakage<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#1F497D;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">
Malicious Code Injection<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#1F497D;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">
Credential Theft<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regarding the “context of a string” and whether name collision risk is judged pre- or post-delegation, I think that’s a topic that deserves more discussion.  I did not quite understand the point being made by
 Jeff at the end of the call.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Anne<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> NCAP-Discuss <<a href="mailto:ncap-discuss-bounces@icann.org">ncap-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve Sheng via NCAP-Discuss<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 23, 2021 11:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kimberly Carlson <<a href="mailto:kimberly.carlson@icann.org">kimberly.carlson@icann.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:ncap-discuss@icann.org">ncap-discuss@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCAP-Discuss] REMINDER: NCAP Discussion Group | 24 February at 19:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear NCAP, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">  For your information. Attached please see the SSAC correspondence to the Board Technical Committee on the revised project 2 proposal.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">  The document contains the full Revised Proposal that the NCAP discussion group worked on and approved by the SSAC.  Accompanying the Revised Proposal, the SSAC also submits the following additional documents:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l4 level1 lfo5"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Revised Study 2 Outline: The outline describes the basic assumptions, major project elements, resources needed, and logistics of the project.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l4 level1 lfo5"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Revised Study 2 Timeline: The project is expected to start upon Board’s approval and run 18 months.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l4 level1 lfo5"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Revised Study 2 Budget.
<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">These additional documents were developed by the NCAP administrative committee with assistance from project management resources provided by ICANN. They were not shared with the NCAP Discussion Group per the
 Conflict-of-Interest policy established for the project. They are also redacted from the public version of the correspondence.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">NCAP-Discuss <</span><a href="mailto:ncap-discuss-bounces@icann.org">ncap-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a><span style="color:black">> on behalf of "</span><a href="mailto:ncap-discuss@icann.org">ncap-discuss@icann.org</a><span style="color:black">"
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<b>Reply-To: </b>Kimberly Carlson <</span><a href="mailto:kimberly.carlson@icann.org">kimberly.carlson@icann.org</a><span style="color:black">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 11:36 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"</span><a href="mailto:ncap-discuss@icann.org">ncap-discuss@icann.org</a><span style="color:black">" <</span><a href="mailto:ncap-discuss@icann.org">ncap-discuss@icann.org</a><span style="color:black">><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Dear all,</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">As a reminder, the <b>NCAP Discussion Group</b> will meet on
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