[Neobrahmigp] Bangla - Proposed code-point repertoire
Udaya Narayana Singh
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Thu Jul 28 04:32:41 UTC 2016
Yes. We should block this character from the NBGP code-point repertoire for all three languages using this script - Bangla, Assamese, and Manipuri.
Regards, Udaya Narayana Singh Office: Professor, Rabindra Bhavana, andChair, Centre for Endangered Languages,Visva-Bharati, Santiniketan 731235 Dt Birbhum (West Bengal, INDIA)Residence: B1 & C1, Dakshinayan, Aban Pally,
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On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 1:37 PM, Akshat Joshi <akshatj at cdac.in> wrote:
Dear sir, Then should we proceed to block this character from the NBGP code-point repertoire? This means we will mark it in blue under the disposition that it is blocked by the NBGP recommendation. Also, please advise if the same argument holds true for U+098C in Assamese and Manipuri language?
with regards, Akshat
On 04-07-2016 10:59, Udaya Narayana Singh wrote:
I agree with this observation of Rajib Chakraborty about non-functionality of the symbol under 098C which should be eliminated.
Regards,
Udaya Narayana Singh
On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Rajib Chakraborty <rajibchakraborty2005 at gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All, Let me share my observation regarding the Bnagla Code-point repertoire (pardon me, if my observation sounds naïve!)—
- 098C (ঌ)—This so-called vocalic letter was never ever in use in Bangla. This was inherited from the Nāgarī (I prefer not to use the epithet "Deva" before Nāgarī as historically there is no element of divinity in the script) script. Even in Sanskrit its use was limited to a solitary verb root √kḷp- "to be adapted" and a few of its conjugated forms, e.g. Vedic form cākḷpé in 3rd person Singular Perfect, Desiderative form cikḷpsati, etc. (Whitney, 1997: 24) In Bangla this was blindly copied from Nāgarī. It does not even have any historical or archaic value in Bangla writing system (for a detailed discussion see Sarkar, 2016ː 104-110). Moreover there is high risk of confusing this letter with the symbol for Bangla numeral 9 (fortunately numerals are disallowed hereǃ)—these two are awfully similar. Inclusion of this letter has no valid argument whatsoever. This should be disallowed as per IDNA protocol.
Except this rest is fine! Best Rajib Chakraborty
References: 1. Sarkar, Pabitra. 2016. “A Commonsense Linguistic Note on the Sanskrit Alphabet”. In Bhattacharyya, Chandan & Sen, Subhrajit etds. 2016 Śodhanidhiḥ, Benaras Mercantile Co. & Gourbanga University, pp. 104-110. 2. Whitney, William Dwight. 1997. The Roots, Verb-forms and Primary Derivatives of the Sanskrit Language. 1st edn in 1885. Delhiː Motilal Banarasidass Publishers Private Limited.
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Akshat Joshi <akshatj at cdac.in> wrote:
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Dear All, We have created an initial set of code-point repertoire for Bangla.
Your feedback/comments are solicited.
We have planned to finalize the Bangla code-point repertoire by 17th of July '16, so your early responses would enable the detailed discussions and timely finalization.
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Regards,
Akshat Joshi
C-DAC GIST
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