[Neobrahmigp] Draft Devanagari LGR

Bal Krishna Bal bal at ku.edu.np
Wed Nov 22 04:38:25 UTC 2017


Thanks. Noted.

On Nov 22, 2017 10:22 AM, "Akshat Joshi" <akshatj at cdac.in> wrote:

> Hello Dr. Bal,
>
> Thanks for bringing that to our notice. Will certainly add them.
>
> Regards,
>
> Akshat
>
> On 21-11-2017 01:04, Bal Krishna Bal wrote:
>
> Hello Akshat,
> Thanks for your efforts. Having gone through the LGR document, I noted
> that two valued contributors for the Tamang language, Mr. Amrit Yonjan and
> Mr. Indra Kumar Tamang were missing in the contributors' list. Could you
> please kindly add them?
> Regards,
> Bal Krishna
>
>
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> Bal Krishna Bal,PhD
> Assistant Professor
> Lead Researcher - Information and Language Processing Research Lab
> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
> Kathmandu, University
> Dhulikhel, Kavre
> Nepal
> Homepage: http://ku.edu.np/cse/faculty/bal
>
> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Akshat Joshi <akshatj at cdac.in> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> As per the comments received from Dr. Raiomod Doctor and Prof. Uma
>> Maheshwar Rao, please find attached, further refined version of the DV LGR.
>>
>> General nature of changes:
>>
>>     - Terminology modification: Anunasika word dropped from Chandrabindu
>> category as it has different connotations
>>
>>     - correction in referring B and D categories in one place
>>
>>     - Two characters added to valid nukta sequences
>>
>>     - Elaboration on the concept of schwa
>>
>>     - Minor grammatical corrections
>>
>> In addition to this, have added Devanagari section of MSR chart before
>> the code-point repertoire to give reader of the full picture.
>>
>> Sending this before call in order to solicit comments on these changes as
>> well. Comments on earlier version are also welcome.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Akshat Joshi
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14-11-2017 17:51, Akshat Joshi wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Please find attached, final revised draft of Devanagari LGR to be
>> submitted to Integration Panel (IP) for their comments/feedback. Both .doc
>> and .pdf versions are given.
>>
>> All of the changes as suggested by the IP in their feedback have been
>> accommodated and our feedback to the same is also attached. Filename:
>> Response to IP Feedback on Devanagari LGR Draft-20171011-4.docx
>>
>> XML file i.e. Normative version of the DV-LGR has also been updated and
>> attached. Filename: Proposed-LGR-Deva-20171114.xml
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Akshat Joshi
>>
>> C-DAC GIST
>>
>> On 11-10-2017 16:46, Akshat Joshi wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Please find attached, Draft Devanagari LGR copy which may be sent to
>> Integration Panel for their detailed review. Only house-keeping changes are
>> still needed which mostly pertain to the non-normative sections of both the
>> documents. In XML, descriptive text needs to be added while in LGR doc
>> file, names of members who all contributed, need to be added. I will soon
>> and share the changes tracked version of the same. As I am out of town till
>> 13th Oct, will do that post 13th. The list of valid and invalid words will
>> also be shared post 13st at the earliest possible time.
>>
>> Most of the changes as suggested by the IP in their feedback have been
>> accommodated. Following is short summary of changes and replies to earlier
>> IP feedback.
>>
>> 1. Halant ending variant has been removed.
>>
>> 2. Nepali corpus words getting invalidated:
>>
>> As rightly pointed by IP, all the below words are invalid as per Nepali
>> writing norms, hence they did not pass the test. Wrong construct ऒ् i.e. V
>> + H
>>
>> शऒ्ढया‎ (0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E)
>> शऒ्ढयाका‎ (0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0915 093E)
>> शऒ्ढयाको‎ (0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0915 094B)
>> शऒ्ढयालगायत‎ (0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0932 0917 093E 092F 0924)
>> ‎शैऒ्ढयाको‎ (0936 0948 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0915 094B)
>>
>> 3. "अफगानिस्तान" should have passed the test. In this XML version it
>> does. Not sure what must have went wrong.
>>
>> 4. Hindi Corpus:
>>
>> सू़जन‎ (0938 0942 093C 091C 0928) - Wrong sequence Cons+Matra+Nukta
>> अरब़‎ (0905 0930 092C 093C) - Ba+Nukta is not permissible. Maybe a typo.
>>
>> 5. All the references pertaining to INSCRIPT standard have been withdrawn
>> as it is not available online, being a paid resource. Instead, omniglot
>> references have been added.
>>
>> 6. Rationale for excluded code-points could not be added. Will be added
>> soon.
>>
>> In my opinion, Dr. Sarmad you may please take this to the IP if there are
>> no immediate substantial comments on the mailing list.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Akshat Joshi
>>
>> C-DAC GIST
>>
>> On 08-09-2017 00:29, Akshat Joshi wrote:
>>
>> Dear  All,
>>
>> Please find attached, copy of the Devanagari LGR which can be submitted
>> to Integration Panel for their early comments.
>>
>> The Devanagari LGR document is also accompanied with the XML file of the
>> same.
>>
>> Dr. Data you may please take this to the IP with following points:
>>
>> 1. In the XML, framing of the rule "follows-only-C-or-CN" has been done
>> as per our understanding. It may need corrections. Request IP to suggest.
>>
>> 2. Variants:
>>
>>     - As per reciprocity of variants, the variant sequences have been
>> reproduced in the <data> section. It may need corrections. Request IP to
>> suggest.
>>
>>     - The "Halant ending" variants mentioned in section 6.2 in LGR
>> document is a case of conditional and null variant. It was not clear how to
>> put that in XML. It has not been done. Request IP to suggest.
>>
>> 3. Some of the language's data is expected to be received in few days.
>> Once received, that too will be incorporated into this. Those have been
>> marked in red.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Akshat Joshi
>>
>> On 28-08-2017 17:58, Akshat Joshi wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Please find attached, most recent version of the Devangari LGR with all
>> the suggestions/changes incorporated till date.
>>
>> We are still in process of getting information on the languages which use
>> Devanagari, fall within EGIDS scale 1 to 4 and are yet to be covered by the
>> NBGP. If we can complete that by end of August, we will release the final
>> version of the Devanagari LGR document which can be sent to Integration
>> Panel for their review.
>>
>> I hope this pre-final draft will act as a good basis for tomorrow's call.
>>
>>
>> There are two things that I have marked in red in the document.
>> 1. The name of the accompanying XML file which we will finalize after the
>> finalization of the LGR rules and repertoire. You may please ignore that
>> for now.
>> 2. Some of the languages which are yet to be taken into account
>> Major changes done to the document are:
>> 1. Changes suggested by Dr. Bal regarding name change to Newar and Nepali
>> being official language of Nepal
>> 2. Additional Halanta ending variant has been added (up for discussion)
>> 3. Principles for inclusion of characters have been added in Guiding
>> Principles section (up for discussion)
>> 4. The case of V preceded by an H has been explicitly mentioned under the
>> WLE section (up for discussion)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Akshat Joshi
>>
>> On 04-08-2017 17:57, Akshat Joshi wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Please find attached, draft LGR document for Devanagari.
>> Request all to give the feedback on the same so that it can be finally
>> modified for sending across to the Integration Panel for comments.
>>
>> There are two things that I have marked in red in the document.
>> 1. The name of the accompanying XML file which we will finalize after the
>> finalization of the LGR rules and repertoire. You may please ignore that
>> for now.
>> 2. Some of the languages which are yet to be taken into account
>>
>> Apart from that, I have taken into consideration the feedback received
>> for Nepali and Newari . Only the Variants have not been taken into account
>> as they conflict with the "No confusingly similar cases as Variants" policy
>> of LGR Procedure. I will separately reply to the proposed variants in
>> Nepali and Newari. However, some such cases pertaining to Santhali have
>> been added to the Variant table. We can discuss the same over the mails. If
>> required, will make further changes if needed.
>>
>> Major changes done to the document are:
>> 1. Akshar formation rules have been simplified and inapplicable cases
>> have been removed e.g. Avagraha and Digits
>> 2. Anusvara and Chandrabindu have been made separate categories as
>> discussed in the Kathmandu F2F meet.
>> 3. Santhali nukta requirements have been incorporated and the WLE section
>> has been modified accordingly.
>> 4. List of languages has been modified as per the EGIDS scale 1 to 4
>> 5. Guiding principles have been added for code-point selection
>> 6. Code-points as required by Sindhi and Kashmiri have been added
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Akshat Joshi
>>
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