[Neobrahmigp] Draft Devanagari LGR

Wed Oct 11 11:16:48 UTC 2017

Dear All,

Please find attached, Draft Devanagari LGR copy which may be sent to 
Integration Panel for their detailed review. Only house-keeping changes 
are still needed which mostly pertain to the non-normative sections of 
both the documents. In XML, descriptive text needs to be added while in 
LGR doc file, names of members who all contributed, need to be added. I 
will soon and share the changes tracked version of the same. As I am out 
of town till 13th Oct, will do that post 13th. The list of valid and 
invalid words will also be shared post 13st at the earliest possible time.

Most of the changes as suggested by the IP in their feedback have been 
accommodated. Following is short summary of changes and replies to 
earlier IP feedback.

1. Halant ending variant has been removed.

2. Nepali corpus words getting invalidated:

As rightly pointed by IP, all the below words are invalid as per Nepali 
writing norms, hence they did not pass the test. Wrong construct ऒ् i.e. 
V + H

शऒ्ढया‎ (0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E)
शऒ्ढयाका‎ (0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0915 093E)
शऒ्ढयाको‎ (0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0915 094B)
शऒ्ढयालगायत‎ (0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0932 0917 093E 092F 0924)
‎शैऒ्ढयाको‎ (0936 0948 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0915 094B)

3. "अफगानिस्तान" should have passed the test. In this XML version it 
does. Not sure what must have went wrong.

4. Hindi Corpus:

सू़जन‎ (0938 0942 093C 091C 0928) - Wrong sequence Cons+Matra+Nukta
अरब़‎ (0905 0930 092C 093C) - Ba+Nukta is not permissible. Maybe a typo.

5. All the references pertaining to INSCRIPT standard have been 
withdrawn as it is not available online, being a paid resource. Instead, 
omniglot references have been added.

6. Rationale for excluded code-points could not be added. Will be added 
soon.

In my opinion, Dr. Sarmad you may please take this to the IP if there 
are no immediate substantial comments on the mailing list.

Regards,

Akshat Joshi

C-DAC GIST

On 08-09-2017 00:29, Akshat Joshi wrote:
>
> Dear  All,
>
> Please find attached, copy of the Devanagari LGR which can be 
> submitted to Integration Panel for their early comments.
>
> The Devanagari LGR document is also accompanied with the XML file of 
> the same.
>
> Dr. Data you may please take this to the IP with following points:
>
> 1. In the XML, framing of the rule "follows-only-C-or-CN" has been 
> done as per our understanding. It may need corrections. Request IP to 
> suggest.
>
> 2. Variants:
>
>     - As per reciprocity of variants, the variant sequences have been 
> reproduced in the <data> section. It may need corrections. Request IP 
> to suggest.
>
>     - The "Halant ending" variants mentioned in section 6.2 in LGR 
> document is a case of conditional and null variant. It was not clear 
> how to put that in XML. It has not been done. Request IP to suggest.
>
> 3. Some of the language's data is expected to be received in few days. 
> Once received, that too will be incorporated into this. Those have 
> been marked in red.
>
> Regards,
>
> Akshat Joshi
>
>
> On 28-08-2017 17:58, Akshat Joshi wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Please find attached, most recent version of the Devangari LGR with 
>> all the suggestions/changes incorporated till date.
>>
>> We are still in process of getting information on the languages which 
>> use Devanagari, fall within EGIDS scale 1 to 4 and are yet to be 
>> covered by the NBGP. If we can complete that by end of August, we 
>> will release the final version of the Devanagari LGR document which 
>> can be sent to Integration Panel for their review.
>>
>> I hope this pre-final draft will act as a good basis for tomorrow's 
>> call.
>>
>>
>> There are two things that I have marked in red in the document.
>> 1. The name of the accompanying XML file which we will finalize after 
>> the finalization of the LGR rules and repertoire. You may please 
>> ignore that for now.
>> 2. Some of the languages which are yet to be taken into account
>>
>> Major changes done to the document are:
>> 1. Changes suggested by Dr. Bal regarding name change to Newar and 
>> Nepali being official language of Nepal
>> 2. Additional Halanta ending variant has been added (up for discussion)
>> 3. Principles for inclusion of characters have been added in Guiding 
>> Principles section (up for discussion)
>> 4. The case of V preceded by an H has been explicitly mentioned under 
>> the WLE section (up for discussion)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Akshat Joshi
>>
>> On 04-08-2017 17:57, Akshat Joshi wrote:
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> Please find attached, draft LGR document for Devanagari.
>>> Request all to give the feedback on the same so that it can be 
>>> finally modified for sending across to the Integration Panel for 
>>> comments.
>>>
>>> There are two things that I have marked in red in the document.
>>> 1. The name of the accompanying XML file which we will finalize 
>>> after the finalization of the LGR rules and repertoire. You may 
>>> please ignore that for now.
>>> 2. Some of the languages which are yet to be taken into account
>>>
>>> Apart from that, I have taken into consideration the feedback 
>>> received for Nepali and Newari . Only the Variants have not been 
>>> taken into account as they conflict with the "No confusingly similar 
>>> cases as Variants" policy of LGR Procedure. I will separately reply 
>>> to the proposed variants in Nepali and Newari. However, some such 
>>> cases pertaining to Santhali have been added to the Variant table. 
>>> We can discuss the same over the mails. If required, will make 
>>> further changes if needed.
>>>
>>> Major changes done to the document are:
>>> 1. Akshar formation rules have been simplified and inapplicable 
>>> cases have been removed e.g. Avagraha and Digits
>>> 2. Anusvara and Chandrabindu have been made separate categories as 
>>> discussed in the Kathmandu F2F meet.
>>> 3. Santhali nukta requirements have been incorporated and the WLE 
>>> section has been modified accordingly.
>>> 4. List of languages has been modified as per the EGIDS scale 1 to 4
>>> 5. Guiding principles have been added for code-point selection
>>> 6. Code-points as required by Sindhi and Kashmiri have been added
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Regards,
>>> Akshat Joshi
>>>
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