[Neobrahmigp] IP-Response-on-Devanagari LGR Proposal

Tue May 1 08:52:37 UTC 2018

Uma Ji,
I feel Rule 7 is necessary. Rule 7 does not follow Rule 2.
>From Rule 2, we can infer that *CH is valid as well as *CHV is also valid,
while Rule 7 states that HV or *CHV are both invalid.

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:32 PM, Uma Maheshwar G <guraohyd at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Akshat, Congratulations for the realization of the final version with
> all the accessories.    I am sure Devanagari LGR would remain a model for
> all NBGP LGRs.  I went through it with a great interest.    It may not be
> out of date if I can raise a point that needs some clarification.
>
> Sorry for this late observation: In my view the following requires to be
> reviewed in Devanagari LGR.
>
> Comment on WLE rule in Devanagari LGR:
>
> In the presence of the following Rule
>
>                         2. H: must be preceded by C or CN of WLE rules:
>
> the Rule:  “7. V: Can *NOT *be preceded by H (details in "Case of V
> preceded by H") “ is only redundant or vacuous and in my view it shall be
> with drawn.
>
> Rule 2. Can be interpreted as  cases like syllables of CH, CNH are valid
> and all other, such as *VH, *XH, MH, BH, DH are invalid and similarly, *HV,
> *HC, *HCN, *HM, *HB, *HD are also invalid. Thus, the outcome of the rule 7
> i.e. *HV is redundant.
>
> And if this is true then the sub list of valid and invalid labels as per
> the WLE rules of the following shall be withdrawn.
>
> #Valid - Case of "V: Can NOT be preceded by H (details in "Case of V
> preceded by H")"
>
> Since the Devanagari LGR stands as the reference model for all other Indian  LGRs it needs to be cleared of such redundancy.                                                                                                                                The following cases hardly occur and hardly acceptable.                                                                         #Invalid - Case of "V: Can NOT be preceded by H (details in "Case of V preceded by H")"
>
> आम्अचार  a compound where the Halant is unnecessary.
>
> स्वागत्आपका  two words in sequence, where the first word must end by a boundary.   -gurao
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 11:49 PM, Akshat Joshi <akshatj at cdac.in> wrote:
>
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>> Dear All,
>>
>> Please find attached, modified Devanagari LGR document with all the
>> changes as suggested by IP accommodated/responded to. This is accompanied
>> with following files.
>> 1. Devanagari LGR modified XML file. ( modified as per IP feedback and
>> additional Bengali cross-script variants)
>> 2. Test Labels file (with more labels covering almost entire
>> character-set, all the exclusion code-points) (Thanks to Neha Gupta for
>> this.)
>> 3. A separate file that contains the labels that produce variants.
>> 4. Response to IP for each of the individual changes suggested by them.
>>
>> As discussed during the F2F I have added the possible Bengali
>> cross-script variants in Devanagari.
>>
>> Additional text regarding ZWJ and ZWNJ has also been added which can (and
>> most probably should) be used by all the other script LGRs (Last paragraph
>> of Point 4.1.2.1 ii)
>>
>> Gurumukhi variants have also been harmonized and the tables updated
>> accordingly.
>>
>> A short paragraph describing the process of harmonization of cross-script
>> variants has also been added at the end of the point 6.5.
>>
>> While we await the responses on the mailing list for extensive
>> cross-script analysis of other scripts with Devanagari (I have already
>> heard from Malayalam, Tamil, Telugu, Gurmukhi, Bengali and Gujarati about
>> not having any additional cases of cross-script variants) I have already
>> added the line in Devanagari LGR that no cases were found. As I am
>> travelling from tomorrow onwards for a week, I may have limited
>> connectivity hence sending in advance. Once we get confirmation from all
>> the scripts (which we most probably will), I request co-chairs to consider
>> as a submission to IP.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Akshat Joshi
>>
>> On March 30, 2018 at 11:44 PM Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain at icann.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Akshat,
>>
>> Please find attached the following:
>>
>> 1) IP response for Devanagari (Proposal of 2018-01-30)
>> 2) LGR proposal, as originally sent
>> 3) Current associated XML
>>
>> You are requested to kindly consider the feedback and update the proposal
>> accordingly.  Please let us know if you have any queries.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sarmad
>>
>>
>>
>>
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