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<p><font face="Georgia">Dear Dr. Bal and All,</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Thank you for the feedback on IP's feedback.</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">In the new referencing system, I have
removed the reference to the Inscript keyboard. Hence I am not
putting this too as a reference. For the code-point repertoire,
referencing Hindi, Marathi, Sanskrit, Kashmiri and Sindhi seem
to be covering all the languages using Devanagari. Hence I have
given references of those five only. If further demanded by IP
for inclusion of additional references, I will certainly
consider this input. In case I do not, please point it out at
that time and I will certainly add the same. I hope this will be
fine.</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Also, thanks for the clarification on
Halanta ending variants, we have dropped that variant
recommendation. <br>
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<p><font face="Georgia">Regards,</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Akshat</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09-10-2017 23:21, Bal Krishna Bal
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Akshat and All,
<div>Going through the feedback from IP, I don't see much that
can be added specifically for Devanagari-based languages
spoken in Nepal (Nepali, Newar and Tamang). I just wanted to
add a few information based on some of the comments from the
IP feedback document:</div>
<div><br>
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<div>1. Reference for keyboard layout for Nepali:[Nepali Unicode
Romanized/Traditional]</div>
<div><a href="http://ltk.org.np/keyboard_layouts.php"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://ltk.org.np/keyboard_layouts.php</a> <br>
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<div>Although some unicode based Newar keyboard layouts are said
to exist, they don't seem to be publicly available. Tamang
does not yet have a separate unicode based keyboard layout of
its own. So, the above two layouts for Nepali can be
referenced as the official keyboard layouts for the Devanagari
based languages in Nepal.</div>
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<div>2. As far as halanta ending labels are concerned, I am
putting the excerpt from the input document we provided
earlier below:</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">In Nepali,
there is growing trend to use or drop the “halanta”
character at the end of
word and vice-versa. There are just a limited set of such
words in the Nepali
dictionary. </span><span
style="font-size:10pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Mangal,serif;color:black"
lang="NE"><span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">For example, <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span
style="line-height:107%;font-family:Mangal,serif;color:black"
lang="NE">परिषद् </span><span
style="line-height:107%;color:black">vs </span><span
style="line-height:107%;font-family:Mangal,serif;color:black"
lang="NE">परिषद</span><span
style="line-height:107%;color:black"><span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span
style="line-height:107%;font-family:Mangal,serif;color:black"
lang="NE">संवत् </span><span
style="line-height:107%;color:black">vs </span><span
style="line-height:107%;font-family:Mangal,serif;color:black"
lang="NE">संवत</span><span
style="line-height:107%;color:black"><span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span
style="line-height:107%;font-family:Mangal,serif;color:black"
lang="NE">सांसद् </span><span
style="line-height:107%;color:black">vs </span><span
style="line-height:107%;font-family:Mangal,serif;color:black"
lang="NE">सांसद<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Any word
with/without halanta ending should be treated as a
“blocked” variant.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">--------------</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">From the above,
we can infer that the halanta ending in labels is not a
very strict requirement for Nepali. So should there be a
consensus to drop the case, we are fine with that as well.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Bal Krishna</span></p>
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<div style="font-size:small">Lead Researcher -
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<div style="font-size:small">Department of Computer
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Sarmad
Hussain <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">sarmad.hussain@icann.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Dear
All,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Thank
you for sharing the draft of the Devanagari Root
Zone LGR proposal for review by the Integration
Panel.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Please
find attached their feedback containing the
following documents:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> </span></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="1">
<li class="m_-7885057240180951853MsoListParagraph"
style="color:windowtext;margin-left:0in">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Feedback
document from IP</span></li>
<li class="m_-7885057240180951853MsoListParagraph"
style="color:windowtext;margin-left:0in">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Updated
XML file, per the feedback</span></li>
<li class="m_-7885057240180951853MsoListParagraph"
style="color:windowtext;margin-left:0in">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Corresponding
(more readable) HTML version derived from the XML
file</span></li>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Please
let us know if you have any queries about the
feedback. You are requested to consider the
feedback as you update the proposal.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Regards,<br>
Sarmad</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> </span></p>
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US"> <a
href="mailto:neobrahmigp-bounces@icann.org"
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[mailto:<a
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sarmad Hussain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 10, 2017 12:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Akshat Joshi <<a
href="mailto:akshatj@cdac.in" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">akshatj@cdac.in</a>>;
<a href="mailto:NeobrahmiGP@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">NeobrahmiGP@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Neobrahmigp] Draft
Devanagari LGR</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Thank
you Akshat, All.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">We
have forwarded the proposal documents to IP for
feedback, along with the queries in the email.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">We
will get back to you with their response soon.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Regards,<br>
Sarmad</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:neobrahmigp-bounces@icann.org"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Akshat Joshi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 07, 2017 11:59
PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:NeobrahmiGP@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">NeobrahmiGP@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Neobrahmigp] Draft
Devanagari LGR</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Dear
All,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Please
find attached, copy of the Devanagari LGR which can
be submitted to Integration Panel for their early
comments.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">The
Devanagari LGR document is also accompanied with the
XML file of the same.
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Dr.
Data you may please take this to the IP with
following points:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">1.
In the XML, framing of the rule
"follows-only-C-or-CN" has been done as per our
understanding. It may need corrections. Request IP
to suggest.
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">2.
Variants: </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">
- As per reciprocity of variants, the variant
sequences have been reproduced in the <data>
section. It may need corrections. Request IP to
suggest.
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">
- The "Halant ending" variants mentioned in section
6.2 in LGR document is a case of conditional and
null variant. It was not clear how to put that in
XML. It has not been done. Request IP to suggest.
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">3.
Some of the language's data is expected to be
received in few days. Once received, that too will
be incorporated into this. Those have been marked in
red.
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Regards,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Akshat
Joshi </span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 28-08-2017 17:58, Akshat Joshi
wrote:</p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Dear
All,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Please
find attached, most recent version of the
Devangari LGR with all the suggestions/changes
incorporated till date.
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">We
are still in process of getting information on the
languages which use Devanagari, fall within EGIDS
scale 1 to 4 and are yet to be covered by the
NBGP. If we can complete that by end of August, we
will release the final version of the Devanagari
LGR document which can be sent to Integration
Panel for their review.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">I
hope this pre-final draft will act as a good basis
for tomorrow's call.
</span></p>
<p> </p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">There
are two things that I have marked in red in the
document.
<br>
1. The name of the accompanying XML file which we
will finalize after the finalization of the LGR
rules and repertoire. You may please ignore that
for now.<br>
2. Some of the languages which are yet to be taken
into account </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Major
changes done to the document are:<br>
1. Changes suggested by Dr. Bal regarding name
change to Newar and Nepali being official language
of Nepal<br>
2. Additional Halanta ending variant has been
added (up for discussion)<br>
3. Principles for inclusion of characters have
been added in Guiding Principles section (up for
discussion)<br>
4. The case of V preceded by an H has been
explicitly mentioned under the WLE section (up for
discussion)<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Akshat Joshi</span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 04-08-2017 17:57, Akshat
Joshi wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Dear
All,<br>
<br>
Please find attached, draft LGR document for
Devanagari. <br>
Request all to give the feedback on the same so
that it can be finally modified for sending
across to the Integration Panel for comments.
<br>
<br>
There are two things that I have marked in red
in the document. <br>
1. The name of the accompanying XML file which
we will finalize after the finalization of the
LGR rules and repertoire. You may please ignore
that for now.<br>
2. Some of the languages which are yet to be
taken into account <br>
<br>
Apart from that, I have taken into consideration
the feedback received for Nepali and Newari .
Only the Variants have not been taken into
account as they conflict with the "No
confusingly similar cases as Variants" policy of
LGR Procedure. I will separately reply to the
proposed variants in Nepali and Newari. However,
some such cases pertaining to Santhali have been
added to the Variant table. We can discuss the
same over the mails. If required, will make
further changes if needed.
<br>
<br>
Major changes done to the document are:<br>
1. Akshar formation rules have been simplified
and inapplicable cases have been removed e.g.
Avagraha and Digits<br>
2. Anusvara and Chandrabindu have been made
separate categories as discussed in the
Kathmandu F2F meet.
<br>
3. Santhali nukta requirements have been
incorporated and the WLE section has been
modified accordingly.
<br>
4. List of languages has been modified as per
the EGIDS scale 1 to 4<br>
5. Guiding principles have been added for
code-point selection<br>
6. Code-points as required by Sindhi and
Kashmiri have been added<br>
<br>
<br>
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Regards,<br>
Akshat Joshi<br>
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