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<p><font face="Georgia">Dear Neha and All,</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Thanks for the feedback. I am adding the
same in the draft. I have received more suggestions on this from
Dr. Raiomond Doctor and Prof. Uma Maheshwar Rao about the
descriptive text to be modified. I am doing those changes in the
draft. <br>
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<p><font face="Georgia">@All, as already requested by Neha, we solicit
your detailed feedback on the document so that there are no
mistakes in the version that will go to IP.</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Regards,<br>
Akshat Joshi<br>
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<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15-11-2017 10:52, Neha Gupta wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We have recently discovered that Nukta<span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="HI">़ </span>(U+093c) is required after two
additional consonants in Devanagari i.e. <span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="AR-SA">च</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="AR-SA"> (</span>U+091A<span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="AR-SA">)</span> and <span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="AR-SA">छ</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="AR-SA"> (</span>U+091B) for Kashmiri language<span
style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="AR-SA">. </span>This is also
listed in the Kashmiri page of Omniglot. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(Link: <a
href="https://www.omniglot.com/writing/kashmiri.htm"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.omniglot.com/writing/kashmiri.htm</a>)
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I had a discussion with Akshat about the
same and he will be updating the draft and xml to accommodate
the characters.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Request everyone to kindly go through the
document and provide maximum feedback possible.<span dir="RTL"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="FA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Calligraphy"">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Calligraphy"">Neha Gupta<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Calligraphy"">C-DAC, GIST<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US"> Neobrahmigp
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:neobrahmigp-bounces@icann.org">mailto:neobrahmigp-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Akshat Joshi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 14 November 2017 17:51<br>
<b>To:</b> Mahesh Kulkarni; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:unsciil51@gmail.com">unsciil51@gmail.com</a>; Udaya
Narayana Singh; Dr. AJAY D A T A<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NeobrahmiGP@icann.org">NeobrahmiGP@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Neobrahmigp] Draft Devanagari LGR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Dear
All, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Please
find attached, final revised draft of Devanagari LGR to be
submitted to Integration Panel (IP) for their
comments/feedback. Both .doc and .pdf versions are given. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">All
of the changes as suggested by the IP in their feedback have
been accommodated and our feedback to the same is also
attached. Filename: Response to IP Feedback on Devanagari
LGR Draft-20171011-4.docx</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">XML
file i.e. Normative version of the DV-LGR has also been
updated and attached. Filename:
Proposed-LGR-Deva-20171114.xml</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Akshat
Joshi</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">C-DAC
GIST</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 11-10-2017 16:46, Akshat Joshi wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Dear
All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Please
find attached, Draft Devanagari LGR copy which may be sent
to Integration Panel for their detailed review. Only
house-keeping changes are still needed which mostly
pertain to the non-normative sections of both the
documents. In XML, descriptive text needs to be added
while in LGR doc file, names of members who all
contributed, need to be added. I will soon and share the
changes tracked version of the same. As I am out of town
till 13th Oct, will do that post 13th. The list of valid
and invalid words will also be shared post 13st at the
earliest possible time. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Most
of the changes as suggested by the IP in their feedback
have been accommodated. Following is short summary of
changes and replies to earlier IP feedback. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">1.
Halant ending variant has been removed.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">2.
Nepali corpus words getting invalidated:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">As
rightly pointed by IP, all the below words are invalid as
per Nepali writing norms, hence they did not pass the
test. Wrong construct </span><span
style="font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="HI">ऒ् </span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">i.e.
V + H</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="HI">शऒ्ढया</span><span lang="HI"></span><span
style="font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="HI"> (</span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">0936
0912 094D 0922 092F 093E) <br>
</span><span
style="font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="HI">शऒ्ढयाका</span><span lang="HI"></span><span
style="font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="HI"> (</span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">0936
0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0915 093E) <br>
</span><span
style="font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="HI">शऒ्ढयाको</span><span lang="HI"></span><span
style="font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="HI"> (</span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">0936
0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0915 094B) <br>
</span><span
style="font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="HI">शऒ्ढयालगायत</span><span lang="HI"></span><span
style="font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="HI"> (</span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">0936
0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0932 0917 093E 092F 0924) <br>
</span><span lang="AR-SA"></span><span
style="font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="HI">शैऒ्ढयाको</span><span lang="HI"></span><span
style="font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="HI"> (</span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">0936
0948 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0915 094B) </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">3.
"</span><span
style="font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="HI">अफगानिस्तान" </span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">should
have passed the test. In this XML version it does. Not
sure what must have went wrong. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">4.
Hindi Corpus:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="HI">सू़जन</span><span lang="HI"></span><span
style="font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="HI"> (</span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">0938
0942 093C 091C 0928) - Wrong sequence Cons+Matra+Nukta<br>
</span><span
style="font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="HI">अरब़</span><span lang="HI"></span><span
style="font-family:"Mangal","serif""
lang="HI"> (</span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">0905
0930 092C 093C) - Ba+Nukta is not permissible. Maybe a
typo. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">5.
All the references pertaining to INSCRIPT standard have
been withdrawn as it is not available online, being a paid
resource. Instead, omniglot references have been added.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">6.
Rationale for excluded code-points could not be added.
Will be added soon. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">In
my opinion, Dr. Sarmad you may please take this to the IP
if there are no immediate substantial comments on the
mailing list.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Akshat
Joshi</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">C-DAC
GIST<br>
<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">On
08-09-2017 00:29, Akshat Joshi wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Dear
All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Please
find attached, copy of the Devanagari LGR which can be
submitted to Integration Panel for their early comments.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">The
Devanagari LGR document is also accompanied with the XML
file of the same. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Dr.
Data you may please take this to the IP with following
points:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">1.
In the XML, framing of the rule "follows-only-C-or-CN"
has been done as per our understanding. It may need
corrections. Request IP to suggest. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">2.
Variants: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">
- As per reciprocity of variants, the variant sequences
have been reproduced in the <data> section. It may
need corrections. Request IP to suggest. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">
- The "Halant ending" variants mentioned in section 6.2
in LGR document is a case of conditional and null
variant. It was not clear how to put that in XML. It has
not been done. Request IP to suggest. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">3.
Some of the language's data is expected to be received
in few days. Once received, that too will be
incorporated into this. Those have been marked in red. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Akshat
Joshi </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">On
28-08-2017 17:58, Akshat Joshi wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Dear
All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Please
find attached, most recent version of the Devangari
LGR with all the suggestions/changes incorporated till
date. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">We
are still in process of getting information on the
languages which use Devanagari, fall within EGIDS
scale 1 to 4 and are yet to be covered by the NBGP. If
we can complete that by end of August, we will release
the final version of the Devanagari LGR document which
can be sent to Integration Panel for their review.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">I
hope this pre-final draft will act as a good basis for
tomorrow's call. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">There
are two things that I have marked in red in the
document. <br>
1. The name of the accompanying XML file which we will
finalize after the finalization of the LGR rules and
repertoire. You may please ignore that for now.<br>
2. Some of the languages which are yet to be taken
into account </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Major
changes done to the document are:<br>
1. Changes suggested by Dr. Bal regarding name change
to Newar and Nepali being official language of Nepal<br>
2. Additional Halanta ending variant has been added
(up for discussion)<br>
3. Principles for inclusion of characters have been
added in Guiding Principles section (up for
discussion)<br>
4. The case of V preceded by an H has been explicitly
mentioned under the WLE section (up for discussion)<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Akshat Joshi</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">On
04-08-2017 17:57, Akshat Joshi wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Dear
All,<br>
<br>
Please find attached, draft LGR document for
Devanagari. <br>
Request all to give the feedback on the same so that
it can be finally modified for sending across to the
Integration Panel for comments. <br>
<br>
There are two things that I have marked in red in
the document. <br>
1. The name of the accompanying XML file which we
will finalize after the finalization of the LGR
rules and repertoire. You may please ignore that for
now.<br>
2. Some of the languages which are yet to be taken
into account <br>
<br>
Apart from that, I have taken into consideration the
feedback received for Nepali and Newari . Only the
Variants have not been taken into account as they
conflict with the "No confusingly similar cases as
Variants" policy of LGR Procedure. I will separately
reply to the proposed variants in Nepali and Newari.
However, some such cases pertaining to Santhali have
been added to the Variant table. We can discuss the
same over the mails. If required, will make further
changes if needed. <br>
<br>
Major changes done to the document are:<br>
1. Akshar formation rules have been simplified and
inapplicable cases have been removed e.g. Avagraha
and Digits<br>
2. Anusvara and Chandrabindu have been made separate
categories as discussed in the Kathmandu F2F meet. <br>
3. Santhali nukta requirements have been
incorporated and the WLE section has been modified
accordingly. <br>
4. List of languages has been modified as per the
EGIDS scale 1 to 4<br>
5. Guiding principles have been added for code-point
selection<br>
6. Code-points as required by Sindhi and Kashmiri
have been added<br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Regards,<br>
Akshat Joshi<br>
<br>
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