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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-IN link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Please find attached the list of valid and invalid labels to be tested against the Devanagari LGR. Kindly refer across the sheets. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:#1F497D'>Neha Gupta<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:#1F497D'>C-DAC, GIST<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Neobrahmigp [mailto:neobrahmigp-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Akshat Joshi<br><b>Sent:</b> 17 November 2017 15:19<br><b>To:</b> Mahesh Kulkarni; unsciil51@gmail.com; Udaya Narayana Singh; Dr. AJAY D A T A; NeobrahmiGP@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Neobrahmigp] Draft Devanagari LGR<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Dear All,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>As per the comments received from Dr. Raiomod Doctor and Prof. Uma Maheshwar Rao, please find attached, further refined version of the DV LGR. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>General nature of changes:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'> - Terminology modification: Anunasika word dropped from Chandrabindu category as it has different connotations</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'> - correction in referring B and D categories in one place</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'> - Two characters added to valid nukta sequences</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'> - Elaboration on the concept of schwa</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'> - Minor grammatical corrections</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>In addition to this, have added Devanagari section of MSR chart before the code-point repertoire to give reader of the full picture. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Sending this before call in order to solicit comments on these changes as well. Comments on earlier version are also welcome. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Akshat Joshi</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 14-11-2017 17:51, Akshat Joshi wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Dear All, </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Please find attached, final revised draft of Devanagari LGR to be submitted to Integration Panel (IP) for their comments/feedback. Both .doc and .pdf versions are given. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>All of the changes as suggested by the IP in their feedback have been accommodated and our feedback to the same is also attached. Filename: Response to IP Feedback on Devanagari LGR Draft-20171011-4.docx</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>XML file i.e. Normative version of the DV-LGR has also been updated and attached. Filename: Proposed-LGR-Deva-20171114.xml</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Akshat Joshi</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>C-DAC GIST</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 11-10-2017 16:46, Akshat Joshi wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Dear All,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Please find attached, Draft Devanagari LGR copy which may be sent to Integration Panel for their detailed review. Only house-keeping changes are still needed which mostly pertain to the non-normative sections of both the documents. In XML, descriptive text needs to be added while in LGR doc file, names of members who all contributed, need to be added. I will soon and share the changes tracked version of the same. As I am out of town till 13th Oct, will do that post 13th. The list of valid and invalid words will also be shared post 13st at the earliest possible time. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Most of the changes as suggested by the IP in their feedback have been accommodated. Following is short summary of changes and replies to earlier IP feedback. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>1. Halant ending variant has been removed.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>2. Nepali corpus words getting invalidated:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>As rightly pointed by IP, all the below words are invalid as per Nepali writing norms, hence they did not pass the test. Wrong construct </span><span lang=HI style='font-family:"Mangal","serif"'>ऒ् </span><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>i.e. V + H</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span lang=HI style='font-family:"Mangal","serif"'>शऒ्ढया</span><span lang=HI></span><span lang=HI style='font-family:"Mangal","serif"'> (</span><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E) <br></span><span lang=HI style='font-family:"Mangal","serif"'>शऒ्ढयाका</span><span lang=HI></span><span lang=HI style='font-family:"Mangal","serif"'> (</span><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0915 093E) <br></span><span lang=HI style='font-family:"Mangal","serif"'>शऒ्ढयाको</span><span lang=HI></span><span lang=HI style='font-family:"Mangal","serif"'> (</span><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0915 094B) <br></span><span lang=HI style='font-family:"Mangal","serif"'>शऒ्ढयालगायत</span><span lang=HI></span><span lang=HI style='font-family:"Mangal","serif"'> (</span><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0932 0917 093E 092F 0924) <br></span><span lang=AR-SA></span><span lang=HI style='font-family:"Mangal","serif"'>शैऒ्ढयाको</span><span lang=HI></span><span lang=HI style='font-family:"Mangal","serif"'> (</span><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>0936 0948 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0915 094B) </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>3. "</span><span lang=HI style='font-family:"Mangal","serif"'>अफगानिस्तान" </span><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>should have passed the test. In this XML version it does. Not sure what must have went wrong. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>4. Hindi Corpus:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span lang=HI style='font-family:"Mangal","serif"'>सू़जन</span><span lang=HI></span><span lang=HI style='font-family:"Mangal","serif"'> (</span><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>0938 0942 093C 091C 0928) - Wrong sequence Cons+Matra+Nukta<br></span><span lang=HI style='font-family:"Mangal","serif"'>अरब़</span><span lang=HI></span><span lang=HI style='font-family:"Mangal","serif"'> (</span><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>0905 0930 092C 093C) - Ba+Nukta is not permissible. Maybe a typo. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>5. All the references pertaining to INSCRIPT standard have been withdrawn as it is not available online, being a paid resource. Instead, omniglot references have been added.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>6. Rationale for excluded code-points could not be added. Will be added soon. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>In my opinion, Dr. Sarmad you may please take this to the IP if there are no immediate substantial comments on the mailing list.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Akshat Joshi</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>C-DAC GIST<br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>On 08-09-2017 00:29, Akshat Joshi wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Dear All,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Please find attached, copy of the Devanagari LGR which can be submitted to Integration Panel for their early comments.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>The Devanagari LGR document is also accompanied with the XML file of the same. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Dr. Data you may please take this to the IP with following points:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>1. In the XML, framing of the rule "follows-only-C-or-CN" has been done as per our understanding. It may need corrections. Request IP to suggest. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>2. Variants: </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'> - As per reciprocity of variants, the variant sequences have been reproduced in the <data> section. It may need corrections. Request IP to suggest. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'> - The "Halant ending" variants mentioned in section 6.2 in LGR document is a case of conditional and null variant. It was not clear how to put that in XML. It has not been done. Request IP to suggest. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>3. Some of the language's data is expected to be received in few days. Once received, that too will be incorporated into this. Those have been marked in red. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Akshat Joshi </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>On 28-08-2017 17:58, Akshat Joshi wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Dear All,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Please find attached, most recent version of the Devangari LGR with all the suggestions/changes incorporated till date. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>We are still in process of getting information on the languages which use Devanagari, fall within EGIDS scale 1 to 4 and are yet to be covered by the NBGP. If we can complete that by end of August, we will release the final version of the Devanagari LGR document which can be sent to Integration Panel for their review.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>I hope this pre-final draft will act as a good basis for tomorrow's call. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>There are two things that I have marked in red in the document. <br>1. The name of the accompanying XML file which we will finalize after the finalization of the LGR rules and repertoire. You may please ignore that for now.<br>2. Some of the languages which are yet to be taken into account </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Major changes done to the document are:<br>1. Changes suggested by Dr. Bal regarding name change to Newar and Nepali being official language of Nepal<br>2. Additional Halanta ending variant has been added (up for discussion)<br>3. Principles for inclusion of characters have been added in Guiding Principles section (up for discussion)<br>4. The case of V preceded by an H has been explicitly mentioned under the WLE section (up for discussion)<br><br>Regards,<br>Akshat Joshi</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>On 04-08-2017 17:57, Akshat Joshi wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Dear All,<br><br>Please find attached, draft LGR document for Devanagari. <br>Request all to give the feedback on the same so that it can be finally modified for sending across to the Integration Panel for comments. <br><br>There are two things that I have marked in red in the document. <br>1. The name of the accompanying XML file which we will finalize after the finalization of the LGR rules and repertoire. You may please ignore that for now.<br>2. Some of the languages which are yet to be taken into account <br><br>Apart from that, I have taken into consideration the feedback received for Nepali and Newari . Only the Variants have not been taken into account as they conflict with the "No confusingly similar cases as Variants" policy of LGR Procedure. I will separately reply to the proposed variants in Nepali and Newari. However, some such cases pertaining to Santhali have been added to the Variant table. We can discuss the same over the mails. If required, will make further changes if needed. <br><br>Major changes done to the document are:<br>1. Akshar formation rules have been simplified and inapplicable cases have been removed e.g. Avagraha and Digits<br>2. Anusvara and Chandrabindu have been made separate categories as discussed in the Kathmandu F2F meet. <br>3. 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