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<p><font face="Georgia">Dear All,</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">As per the discussions in the Colombo
meeting, I have added the Nukta Variants in the appendix in the
non-normative section in Devanagari LGR.</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">All the files required have been attached.<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Also, the file containing valid and invalid
labels has been split for each category separately.</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Regards,</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Akshat Joshi</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia"></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07-12-2017 18:47, Akshat Joshi
wrote:<br>
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<p><font face="Georgia">Dear All,</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Further to the comments received from
Integration Panel on 27th Nov. 2017, Devanagari LGR Drafts
(Doc file, XML) have been revised and are attached.</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">In addition, I have also attached sample
strings </font><font face="Georgia"><font face="Georgia">(created
by Neha Gupta) </font>that are supposed to be validated and
invalidated by the said draft. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">As discussed in con-call on 30th Nov.
2017, we would be submitting the same to Integration Panel </font><font
face="Georgia"><font face="Georgia">on 16th Dec. 2017 </font>
for their final comments. If draft is accepted by them without
any changes, it will be considered as a final submission from
NBGP to IP and will then undergo public comments process.</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Request all to provide feedback on the
same before 15th Dec. 2017 for any changes sought. As I would
be leaving for Sri Lanka F2F on 11th night, comments received
before that would enable me to integrate them in the document
easily. Still, you may provide the comments by 15th. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">If there are no comments, request the
co-chairs to send all the documents to IP with following
remarks:</font></p>
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<p><font face="Georgia">1. </font><font face="Georgia"><font
face="Georgia">Devanagari LGR Drafts (Doc file, XML) have
been revised </font></font><font face="Georgia"><font
face="Georgia"><font face="Georgia">as per the comments
received from Integration Panel on 27th Nov. 2017</font>
(Attached)</font> <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">2. Sample Input strings (to be validated
and invalidated) have also been provided in an Excel file. </font><font
face="Georgia"><font face="Georgia"><font face="Georgia">(Attached)</font>
</font></font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">3. Almost all the edits and additions
(both in Main document as well as in XML) suggested by the IP
have been carried out, hence there is no separate document
attached with NBGP remarks. There are only two remarks from
NBGP as given below.<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia"> - After due analysis for cross-script
variants of Devanagari characters with all other scripts, DV
LGR lists cross-script variants </font><font face="Georgia"><font
face="Georgia">only with </font> Gurmukhi script based on
"visual confusability". As they are not "exactly similar",
they have been added in the Appendix (A) and not made part of
normative recommendation. They have also not been added to the
XML. NBGP requests IP to advise if these cases are to be made
part of proposed variants despite belonging to "visual
confusability" case.<br>
<br>
2. The edit suggested in "Variant Disposition" has not been
taken in toto. The use of the term "mutually exclusive" as
used to refer to the variants is not clear hence that line is
dropped. </font><font face="Georgia"><font face="Georgia">NBGP
can add the same i</font>f the wording is an absolute must,
after due consultation with the IP. Request the IP feedback on
the same. <br>
</font></p>
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<font face="Georgia">Regards,</font>
<p><font face="Georgia">Akshat Joshi</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">C-DAC GIST</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia"><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17-11-2017 15:18, Akshat Joshi
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<p><font face="Georgia">Dear All,</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">As per the comments received from Dr.
Raiomod Doctor and Prof. Uma Maheshwar Rao, please find
attached, further refined version of the DV LGR. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">General nature of changes:<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia"> - Terminology modification:
Anunasika word dropped from Chandrabindu category as it has
different connotations<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia"> - correction in referring B and D
categories in one place<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia"> - Two characters added to valid
nukta sequences</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia"> - Elaboration on the concept of
schwa</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia"> - Minor grammatical corrections<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">In addition to this, have added
Devanagari section of MSR chart before the code-point
repertoire to give reader of the full picture. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Sending this before call in order to
solicit comments on these changes as well. Comments on
earlier version are also welcome. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Regards,</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Akshat Joshi<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14-11-2017 17:51, Akshat Joshi
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<p><font face="Georgia">Dear All, <br>
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<p><font face="Georgia">Please find attached, final revised
draft of Devanagari LGR to be submitted to Integration
Panel (IP) for their comments/feedback. Both </font><font
face="Georgia"><font face="Georgia">.doc and .pdf versions
are given. <br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia"><font face="Georgia">All of the
changes as suggested by the IP in their feedback have
been accommodated and our feedback to the same is also
attached. Filename: Response to IP Feedback on
Devanagari LGR Draft-20171011-4.docx</font></font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia"><font face="Georgia">XML file i.e.
Normative version of the DV-LGR has also been updated
and attached. Filename: Proposed-LGR-Deva-20171114.xml<br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia"><font face="Georgia">Regards,</font></font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia"><font face="Georgia">Akshat Joshi</font></font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia"><font face="Georgia">C-DAC GIST</font></font></p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11-10-2017 16:46, Akshat Joshi
wrote:<br>
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<p><font face="Georgia">Dear All,</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Please find attached, Draft
Devanagari LGR copy which may be sent to Integration
Panel for their detailed review. Only house-keeping
changes are still needed which mostly pertain to the
non-normative sections of both the documents. In XML,
descriptive text needs to be added while in LGR doc
file, names of members who all contributed, need to be
added. I will soon and share the changes tracked version
of the same. As I am out of town till 13th Oct, will do
that post 13th. The list of valid and invalid words will
also be shared post 13st at the earliest possible time.
<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Most of the changes as suggested by
the IP in their feedback have been accommodated.
Following is short summary of changes and replies to
earlier IP feedback. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">1. Halant ending variant has been
removed.</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">2. Nepali corpus words getting
invalidated:</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">As rightly pointed by IP, all the
below words are invalid as per Nepali writing norms,
hence they did not pass the test. Wrong construct ऒ्
i.e. V + H</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">शऒ्ढया (0936 0912 094D 0922 092F
093E) <br>
शऒ्ढयाका (0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0915 093E) <br>
शऒ्ढयाको (0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0915 094B) <br>
शऒ्ढयालगायत (0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0932 0917
093E 092F 0924) <br>
शैऒ्ढयाको (0936 0948 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0915
094B) <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">3. "अफगानिस्तान" should have passed
the test. In this XML version it does. Not sure what
must have went wrong. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">4. Hindi Corpus:</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">सू़जन (0938 0942 093C 091C 0928) -
Wrong sequence Cons+Matra+Nukta<br>
अरब़ (0905 0930 092C 093C) - Ba+Nukta is not
permissible. Maybe a typo. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">5. All the references pertaining to
INSCRIPT standard have been withdrawn as it is not
available online, being a paid resource. Instead,
omniglot references have been added.</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">6. Rationale for excluded
code-points could not be added. Will be added soon. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">In my opinion, Dr. Sarmad you may
please take this to the IP if there are no immediate
substantial comments on the mailing list.<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Regards,</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Akshat Joshi</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">C-DAC GIST<br>
</font><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<w:WordDocument>
<w:View>Normal</w:View>
<w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom>
<w:TrackMoves/>
<w:TrackFormatting/>
<w:PunctuationKerning/>
<w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/>
<w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>
<w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent>
<w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>
<w:DoNotPromoteQF/>
<w:LidThemeOther>EN-US</w:LidThemeOther>
<w:LidThemeAsian>X-NONE</w:LidThemeAsian>
<w:LidThemeComplexScript>KHM</w:LidThemeComplexScript>
<w:Compatibility>
<w:BreakWrappedTables/>
<w:SnapToGridInCell/>
<w:WrapTextWithPunct/>
<w:UseAsianBreakRules/>
<w:DontGrowAutofit/>
<w:SplitPgBreakAndParaMark/>
<w:EnableOpenTypeKerning/>
<w:DontFlipMirrorIndents/>
<w:OverrideTableStyleHps/>
</w:Compatibility>
<m:mathPr>
<m:mathFont m:val="Cambria Math"/>
<m:brkBin m:val="before"/>
<m:brkBinSub m:val="--"/>
<m:smallFrac m:val="off"/>
<m:dispDef/>
<m:lMargin m:val="0"/>
<m:rMargin m:val="0"/>
<m:defJc m:val="centerGroup"/>
<m:wrapIndent m:val="1440"/>
<m:intLim m:val="subSup"/>
<m:naryLim m:val="undOvr"/>
</m:mathPr></w:WordDocument>
</xml><![endif]--></p>
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08-09-2017 00:29, Akshat Joshi wrote:<br>
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<p><font face="Georgia">Dear All,</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Please find attached, copy of the
Devanagari LGR which can be submitted to Integration
Panel for their early comments.</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">The Devanagari LGR document is
also accompanied with the XML file of the same. <br>
</font> </p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Dr. Data you may please take this
to the IP with following points:</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">1. In the XML, framing of the rule
"follows-only-C-or-CN" has been done as per our
understanding. It may need corrections. Request IP to
suggest. <br>
</font> </p>
<p><font face="Georgia">2. Variants: <br>
</font> </p>
<p><font face="Georgia"> - As per reciprocity of
variants, the variant sequences have been reproduced
in the <data> section. It may need corrections.
Request IP to suggest. <br>
</font> </p>
<p><font face="Georgia"> - The "Halant ending" variants
mentioned in section 6.2 in LGR document is a case of
conditional and null variant. It was not clear how to
put that in XML. It has not been done. Request IP to
suggest. </font><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:OfficeDocumentSettings>
<o:RelyOnVML/>
<o:AllowPNG/>
</o:OfficeDocumentSettings>
</xml><![endif]--></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">3. Some of the language's data is
expected to be received in few days. Once received,
that too will be incorporated into this. Those have
been marked in red. <br>
</font> </p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Regards,</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Akshat Joshi <br>
</font> </p>
<font face="Georgia"><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font face="Georgia">On
28-08-2017 17:58, Akshat Joshi wrote:<br>
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<p><font face="Georgia">Dear All,</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Please find attached, most
recent version of the Devangari LGR with all the
suggestions/changes incorporated till date. <br>
</font> </p>
<p><font face="Georgia">We are still in process of
getting information on the languages which use
Devanagari, fall within EGIDS scale 1 to 4 and are
yet to be covered by the NBGP. If we can complete
that by end of August, we will release the final
version of the Devanagari LGR document which can be
sent to Integration Panel for their review.</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">I hope this pre-final draft will
act as a good basis for tomorrow's call. </font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia"><br>
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<p><font face="Georgia">There are two things that I have
marked in red in the document. <br>
1. The name of the accompanying XML file which we
will finalize after the finalization of the LGR
rules and repertoire. You may please ignore that for
now.<br>
2. Some of the languages which are yet to be taken
into account <br>
</font> </p>
<font face="Georgia">Major changes done to the document
are:<br>
1. Changes suggested by Dr. Bal regarding name change
to Newar and Nepali being official language of Nepal<br>
2. Additional Halanta ending variant has been added
(up for discussion)<br>
3. Principles for inclusion of characters have been
added in Guiding Principles section (up for
discussion)<br>
4. The case of V preceded by an H has been explicitly
mentioned under the WLE section (up for discussion)<br>
</font> <font face="Georgia"><br>
Regards,<br>
Akshat Joshi<br>
</font> <font face="Georgia"><br>
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04-08-2017 17:57, Akshat Joshi wrote:<br>
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<font face="Georgia"> Dear All,<br>
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Please find attached, draft LGR document for
Devanagari. <br>
Request all to give the feedback on the same so that
it can be finally modified for sending across to the
Integration Panel for comments. <br>
</font> <font face="Georgia"><br>
There are two things that I have marked in red in
the document. <br>
1. The name of the accompanying XML file which we
will finalize after the finalization of the LGR
rules and repertoire. You may please ignore that for
now.<br>
2. Some of the languages which are yet to be taken
into account <br>
</font> <font face="Georgia"><br>
Apart from that, I have taken into consideration the
feedback received for Nepali and Newari . Only the
Variants have not been taken into account as they
conflict with the "No confusingly similar cases as
Variants" policy of LGR Procedure. I will separately
reply to the proposed variants in Nepali and Newari.
However, some such cases pertaining to Santhali have
been added to the Variant table. We can discuss the
same over the mails. If required, will make further
changes if needed. <br>
</font> <font face="Georgia"><br>
Major changes done to the document are:<br>
1. Akshar formation rules have been simplified and
inapplicable cases have been removed e.g. Avagraha
and Digits<br>
2. Anusvara and Chandrabindu have been made separate
categories as discussed in the Kathmandu F2F meet. <br>
3. Santhali nukta requirements have been
incorporated and the WLE section has been modified
accordingly. <br>
4. List of languages has been modified as per the
EGIDS scale 1 to 4<br>
5. Guiding principles have been added for code-point
selection<br>
6. Code-points as required by Sindhi and Kashmiri
have been added<br>
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Akshat Joshi<br>
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