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<p><font face="Georgia">Dear All,</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">The draft has been further modified for a
slight correction in non-normative Cross-script variants in
Appendix.</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Please find the same attached.<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Regards,</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia">Akshat Joshi</font></p>
<p><font face="Georgia"></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16-01-2018 00:41, Akshat Joshi
wrote:<br>
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<div> Dear All, </div>
<div> </div>
<div> The Devanagari LGR Document has been modified to reflect the
cross-script variant analysis carried out recently. </div>
<div> </div>
<div> The Devanagari-Gurmukhi variants have been modified and
separated in two sections that of normative and non-normative. </div>
<div> </div>
<div> The cross-script variants of Devanagari Visarga with the
respective Visarga characters in Gujarati, Telugu, Kannada,
Malayalam and Sinhala have been added to non-normative section
as it is a singular case and complete cross-script variants
cannot be formed with them. </div>
<div> </div>
<div> The XML has not been updated I would require Dr.
Sarmad/Pitinan's guidance in incorporating sequence based
cross-script variants. </div>
<div> </div>
<div> Regards, </div>
<div> Akshat Joshi </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div> <br>
On January 2, 2018 at 5:25 PM Akshat Joshi
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:akshatj@cdac.in"><akshatj@cdac.in></a> wrote: </div>
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<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Dear All,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">As per the discussions
in the Colombo meeting, I have added the Nukta Variants in
the appendix in the non-normative section in Devanagari
LGR.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">All the files required
have been attached.<br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Also, the file
containing valid and invalid labels has been split for
each category separately.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Regards,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Akshat Joshi</span></p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> On 07-12-2017 18:47, Akshat
Joshi wrote: </div>
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<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Dear All,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Further to the
comments received from Integration Panel on 27th Nov.
2017, Devanagari LGR Drafts (Doc file, XML) have been
revised and are attached.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">In addition, I have
also attached sample strings </span><span
style="font-family: Georgia;"><span style="font-family:
Georgia;">(created by Neha Gupta) </span>that are
supposed to be validated and invalidated by the said
draft. <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">As discussed in
con-call on 30th Nov. 2017, we would be submitting the
same to Integration Panel </span><span
style="font-family: Georgia;"><span style="font-family:
Georgia;">on 16th Dec. 2017 </span> for their final
comments. If draft is accepted by them without any
changes, it will be considered as a final submission
from NBGP to IP and will then undergo public comments
process.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Request all to
provide feedback on the same before 15th Dec. 2017 for
any changes sought. As I would be leaving for Sri Lanka
F2F on 11th night, comments received before that would
enable me to integrate them in the document easily.
Still, you may provide the comments by 15th. <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">If there are no
comments, request the co-chairs to send all the
documents to IP with following remarks:</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">1. </span><span
style="font-family: Georgia;"><span style="font-family:
Georgia;">Devanagari LGR Drafts (Doc file, XML) have
been revised </span></span><span style="font-family:
Georgia;"><span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span
style="font-family: Georgia;">as per the comments
received from Integration Panel on 27th Nov. 2017</span>
(Attached)</span> <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">2. Sample Input
strings (to be validated and invalidated) have also been
provided in an Excel file. </span><span
style="font-family: Georgia;"><span style="font-family:
Georgia;"><span style="font-family: Georgia;">(Attached)</span>
</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">3. Almost all the
edits and additions (both in Main document as well as in
XML) suggested by the IP have been carried out, hence
there is no separate document attached with NBGP
remarks. There are only two remarks from NBGP as given
below.<br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;"> - After due
analysis for cross-script variants of Devanagari
characters with all other scripts, DV LGR lists
cross-script variants </span><span style="font-family:
Georgia;"><span style="font-family: Georgia;">only with </span>
Gurmukhi script based on "visual confusability". As they
are not "exactly similar", they have been added in the
Appendix (A) and not made part of normative
recommendation. They have also not been added to the
XML. NBGP requests IP to advise if these cases are to be
made part of proposed variants despite belonging to
"visual confusability" case.<br>
<br>
2. The edit suggested in "Variant Disposition" has not
been taken in toto. The use of the term "mutually
exclusive" as used to refer to the variants is not clear
hence that line is dropped. </span><span
style="font-family: Georgia;"><span style="font-family:
Georgia;">NBGP can add the same i</span>f the wording
is an absolute must, after due consultation with the IP.
Request the IP feedback on the same. <br>
</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;">Regards,</span>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Akshat Joshi</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">C-DAC GIST</span></p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> On 17-11-2017 15:18, Akshat
Joshi wrote: </div>
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<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Dear All,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">As per the comments
received from Dr. Raiomod Doctor and Prof. Uma
Maheshwar Rao, please find attached, further refined
version of the DV LGR. <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">General nature of
changes:<br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;"> - Terminology
modification: Anunasika word dropped from Chandrabindu
category as it has different connotations<br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;"> - correction in
referring B and D categories in one place<br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;"> - Two
characters added to valid nukta sequences</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;"> - Elaboration
on the concept of schwa</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;"> - Minor
grammatical corrections<br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">In addition to
this, have added Devanagari section of MSR chart
before the code-point repertoire to give reader of the
full picture. <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Sending this before
call in order to solicit comments on these changes as
well. Comments on earlier version are also welcome. <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Regards,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Akshat Joshi<br>
</span></p>
<p> </p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> On 14-11-2017 17:51, Akshat
Joshi wrote: </div>
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<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Dear All, <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Please find
attached, final revised draft of Devanagari LGR to
be submitted to Integration Panel (IP) for their
comments/feedback. Both </span><span
style="font-family: Georgia;"><span
style="font-family: Georgia;">.doc and .pdf
versions are given. <br>
</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span
style="font-family: Georgia;">All of the changes
as suggested by the IP in their feedback have been
accommodated and our feedback to the same is also
attached. Filename: Response to IP Feedback on
Devanagari LGR Draft-20171011-4.docx</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span
style="font-family: Georgia;">XML file i.e.
Normative version of the DV-LGR has also been
updated and attached. Filename:
Proposed-LGR-Deva-20171114.xml<br>
</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span
style="font-family: Georgia;">Regards,</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span
style="font-family: Georgia;">Akshat Joshi</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span
style="font-family: Georgia;">C-DAC GIST</span></span></p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> On 11-10-2017 16:46,
Akshat Joshi wrote: </div>
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<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Dear All,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Please find
attached, Draft Devanagari LGR copy which may be
sent to Integration Panel for their detailed
review. Only house-keeping changes are still
needed which mostly pertain to the non-normative
sections of both the documents. In XML,
descriptive text needs to be added while in LGR
doc file, names of members who all contributed,
need to be added. I will soon and share the
changes tracked version of the same. As I am out
of town till 13th Oct, will do that post 13th. The
list of valid and invalid words will also be
shared post 13st at the earliest possible time. <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Most of the
changes as suggested by the IP in their feedback
have been accommodated. Following is short summary
of changes and replies to earlier IP feedback. <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">1. Halant
ending variant has been removed.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">2. Nepali
corpus words getting invalidated:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">As rightly
pointed by IP, all the below words are invalid as
per Nepali writing norms, hence they did not pass
the test. Wrong construct ऒ् i.e. V + H</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">शऒ्ढया (0936
0912 094D 0922 092F 093E) <br>
शऒ्ढयाका (0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0915
093E) <br>
शऒ्ढयाको (0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0915
094B) <br>
शऒ्ढयालगायत (0936 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E 0932
0917 093E 092F 0924) <br>
शैऒ्ढयाको (0936 0948 0912 094D 0922 092F 093E
0915 094B) <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">3.
"अफगानिस्तान" should have passed the test. In this
XML version it does. Not sure what must have went
wrong. <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">4. Hindi
Corpus:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">सू़जन (0938
0942 093C 091C 0928) - Wrong sequence
Cons+Matra+Nukta<br>
अरब़ (0905 0930 092C 093C) - Ba+Nukta is not
permissible. Maybe a typo. <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">5. All the
references pertaining to INSCRIPT standard have
been withdrawn as it is not available online,
being a paid resource. Instead, omniglot
references have been added.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">6. Rationale
for excluded code-points could not be added. Will
be added soon. <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">In my opinion,
Dr. Sarmad you may please take this to the IP if
there are no immediate substantial comments on the
mailing list.<br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Regards,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Akshat Joshi</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">C-DAC GIST<br>
</span>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> <span
style="font-family: Georgia;">On 08-09-2017 00:29,
Akshat Joshi wrote:<br>
</span> </div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Dear All,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Please find
attached, copy of the Devanagari LGR which can
be submitted to Integration Panel for their
early comments.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">The
Devanagari LGR document is also accompanied with
the XML file of the same. <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Dr. Data you
may please take this to the IP with following
points:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">1. In the
XML, framing of the rule "follows-only-C-or-CN"
has been done as per our understanding. It may
need corrections. Request IP to suggest. <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">2. Variants:
<br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;"> - As per
reciprocity of variants, the variant sequences
have been reproduced in the <data>
section. It may need corrections. Request IP to
suggest. <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;"> - The
"Halant ending" variants mentioned in section
6.2 in LGR document is a case of conditional and
null variant. It was not clear how to put that
in XML. It has not been done. Request IP to
suggest. </span>
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<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">3. Some of
the language's data is expected to be received
in few days. Once received, that too will be
incorporated into this. Those have been marked
in red. <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Regards,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Akshat Joshi
<br>
</span></p>
<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><br>
</span>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> <span
style="font-family: Georgia;">On 28-08-2017
17:58, Akshat Joshi wrote:<br>
</span> </div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Dear All,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">Please find
attached, most recent version of the Devangari
LGR with all the suggestions/changes
incorporated till date. <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">We are
still in process of getting information on the
languages which use Devanagari, fall within
EGIDS scale 1 to 4 and are yet to be covered
by the NBGP. If we can complete that by end of
August, we will release the final version of
the Devanagari LGR document which can be sent
to Integration Panel for their review.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">I hope this
pre-final draft will act as a good basis for
tomorrow's call. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;"><br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia;">There are
two things that I have marked in red in the
document. <br>
1. The name of the accompanying XML file which
we will finalize after the finalization of the
LGR rules and repertoire. You may please
ignore that for now.<br>
2. Some of the languages which are yet to be
taken into account <br>
</span></p>
<span style="font-family: Georgia;">Major changes
done to the document are:<br>
1. Changes suggested by Dr. Bal regarding name
change to Newar and Nepali being official
language of Nepal<br>
2. Additional Halanta ending variant has been
added (up for discussion)<br>
3. Principles for inclusion of characters have
been added in Guiding Principles section (up for
discussion)<br>
4. The case of V preceded by an H has been
explicitly mentioned under the WLE section (up
for discussion)<br>
</span> <span style="font-family: Georgia;"><br>
Regards,<br>
Akshat Joshi<br>
</span> <span style="font-family: Georgia;"><br>
</span>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> <span
style="font-family: Georgia;">On 04-08-2017
17:57, Akshat Joshi wrote:<br>
</span> </div>
<blockquote type="cite"> <span
style="font-family: Georgia;"> Dear All,<br>
</span> <span style="font-family: Georgia;"><br>
Please find attached, draft LGR document for
Devanagari. <br>
Request all to give the feedback on the same
so that it can be finally modified for sending
across to the Integration Panel for comments.
<br>
</span> <span style="font-family: Georgia;"><br>
There are two things that I have marked in red
in the document. <br>
1. The name of the accompanying XML file which
we will finalize after the finalization of the
LGR rules and repertoire. You may please
ignore that for now.<br>
2. Some of the languages which are yet to be
taken into account <br>
</span> <span style="font-family: Georgia;"><br>
Apart from that, I have taken into
consideration the feedback received for Nepali
and Newari . Only the Variants have not been
taken into account as they conflict with the
"No confusingly similar cases as Variants"
policy of LGR Procedure. I will separately
reply to the proposed variants in Nepali and
Newari. However, some such cases pertaining to
Santhali have been added to the Variant table.
We can discuss the same over the mails. If
required, will make further changes if needed.
<br>
</span> <span style="font-family: Georgia;"><br>
Major changes done to the document are:<br>
1. Akshar formation rules have been simplified
and inapplicable cases have been removed e.g.
Avagraha and Digits<br>
2. Anusvara and Chandrabindu have been made
separate categories as discussed in the
Kathmandu F2F meet. <br>
3. Santhali nukta requirements have been
incorporated and the WLE section has been
modified accordingly. <br>
4. List of languages has been modified as per
the EGIDS scale 1 to 4<br>
5. Guiding principles have been added for
code-point selection<br>
6. Code-points as required by Sindhi and
Kashmiri have been added<br>
</span> <span style="font-family: Georgia;"><br>
</span> <span style="font-family: Georgia;"><br>
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Akshat Joshi<br>
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