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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I too agree<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Pavanaja<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Neobrahmigp <neobrahmigp-bounces@icann.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harish Chowdhary<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 6, 2018 3:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> unsciil51@gmail.com<br><b>Cc:</b> sinhalagp@icann.org; neobrahmigp@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Neobrahmigp] Singleton/Few cross-script variant code points<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>+1<br><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thanks,</span></strong><b><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Harish Chowdhary,</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Technology Analyst,</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>National Internet Exchange of India</span></strong></b><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:blue'>ISOC FELLOW | inSIG FELLOW</span></strong><b><span style='color:blue'><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>IIREF FELLOW | UASG AMBASSADOR</span></strong></span></b><br><a href="http://www.nixi.in">www.nixi.in</a><span style='color:blue'> | </span><a href="http://www.indiaig.in">www.indiaig.in</a><span style='color:blue'> | </span><a href="http://registry.in">registry.in</a><br><br><br>From: Udaya Narayana Singh <<a href="mailto:unsciil51@gmail.com">unsciil51@gmail.com</a>><br>Sent: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 15:53:32 GMT+0530<br>To: "<a href="mailto:neobrahmigp@icann.org">neobrahmigp@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:neobrahmigp@icann.org">neobrahmigp@icann.org</a>>, Akshat Joshi <<a href="mailto:akshatj@cdac.in">akshatj@cdac.in</a>><br>Cc: "<a href="mailto:sinhalagp@icann.org">sinhalagp@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:sinhalagp@icann.org">sinhalagp@icann.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Neobrahmigp] Singleton/Few cross-script variant code points<br> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I fully agree with the very pertinent observations given by Akshat here and with the solutions he has provided. I think this brings in a great deal of clarity in the issue. Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Prof Udaya Narayana Singh<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Chair-Professor, ACLiS<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Amity University Haryana<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Pachgaon-Manesar, Dt Gurgaon <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>PIN 122413<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Cell 9434050218; 9830132234<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yahoo_quoted_1302103551"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Friday, 6 July, 2018, 3:34:41 PM IST, Akshat Joshi <<a href="mailto:akshatj@cdac.in">akshatj@cdac.in</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=yiv5504404242><div><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Dear All,</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Here is a brief discussion about this issue.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>By and large, we have been including all the cross-script variants in the cross-script variant analysis which (or any combination of which) could stand as a alone valid character/character sequence.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Recently IP has suggested that we may want to reconsider this where a small number of code-points are involved as that is an indicative of very small overlap between the scripts. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>There are two kinds of such cases:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> 1. Cross-script variant set made up of dependent characters <b>ONLY</b>:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> 2. Cross-script variant sets which do included non-dependent characters/sequences:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Let us take a look at each of them individually:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>1. Cross-script variants made up of dependent characters only:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>This is the case as given in the Example 2 given by Pitinan:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Telugu</span></i><i><span lang=TE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gautami",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> ం (</span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>0C02) and Malayalam</span></i><i><span lang=ML style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kartika",serif;color:#26282A'> ം (</span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>0D02) are NOT variant code points. As they are combining marks and cannot form variant labels. The same applies or Telugu</span></i><i><span lang=TE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gautami",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> ః (</span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>0C03)and Malayalam</span></i><i><span lang=ML style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kartika",serif;color:#26282A'> ഃ (</span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>0D03)</span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>If dependent characters (e.g. Vowel Signs, Anusvara, Visarga, Chandrabindu etc) are the <b>ONLY</b> cases of cross-script variants among the script involved, it is safe to assume the <b>NONE</b> of the labels created entirely of the cross-script variants would be valid ones. Hence we did not include them in the cross-script variants of the script pair. However, if there is even one non-dependent (e.g. Consonant, Vowel etc) character as a part of the cross-script variants, then all such cases should mandatorily be included in the cross-script variant table.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>2. Cross-script variants which do included non-dependent characters/sequences:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>This is the case as given in the Example 1 given by Pitinan:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Oriya </span></i><i><span lang=OR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kalinga",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>ଠ (</span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>0B20) and Malayalam </span></i><i><span lang=ML style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kartika",serif;color:#26282A'>ഠ (</span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>0D20) are variant code points. </span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>As both the code-points involved in this pair are non-dependent, even the smallest instance (single code-point) i.e. </span><span lang=OR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kalinga",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>ଠ (</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Oriya ) and </span><span lang=ML style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kartika",serif;color:#26282A'>ഠ (</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Malayalam) are valid labels which look exactly alike. If we concatenate instances of same variant characters with one another, we, in theory, get infinite number labels as given below:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=OR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kalinga",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>ଠଠ -</span><span lang=OR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kalinga",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span lang=ML style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kartika",serif;color:#26282A'>ഠഠ</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=OR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kalinga",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>ଠଠଠ -</span><span lang=OR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kalinga",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span lang=ML style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kartika",serif;color:#26282A'>ഠഠഠ</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=OR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kalinga",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>ଠଠଠଠ -</span><span lang=OR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kalinga",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span lang=ML style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kartika",serif;color:#26282A'>ഠഠഠഠ</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=OR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kalinga",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>ଠଠଠଠଠ -</span><span lang=OR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kalinga",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span lang=ML style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Kartika",serif;color:#26282A'>ഠഠഠഠഠ</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>.....</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>all of these look exactly alike, belong to totally different scripts and can gain independent existence if not included in the cross-script variant set. This indicates that though seemingly the number of characters is few, it can create a large number of labels. Important thing to note here is the presence of at least one non-dependent character in the cross-script variant set. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Hence, it is proposed that:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>If, in any two given scripts, all the potential cross-script variants consist of dependent (e.g. Vowel Signs, Anusvara, Visarga, Chandrabindu etc) characters <b>ONLY</b>, then that entire set can be ignored and no cross-script variants be proposed between those two scripts. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>If, in any two given scripts, there is <b>AT LEAST ONE</b> non-dependent (e.g. Consonant, Vowel etc) cross-script variant character/sequence present, all the potential cross-script variants be considered and proposed between the two scripts.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Regards,</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Akshat</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=yiv5504404242yqt61279><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>On 06-07-2018 12:20, Pitinan Kooarmornpatana wrote:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div><div id=yiv5504404242yqt59021><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Dear NBGP members, </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Kindly let me draw you attention to the issue of cross-script variant code points where there is only a single code point or there are only a few code points.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><b><i><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> </span></i></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msolistparagraph style='margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#4472C4'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><b><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#4472C4'>Background</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#4472C4'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Currently NBGP proposals include all cross-script variant code points which they can form well-formed cross-script variant labels without considering how many cross-script variant code points there are between two scripts. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><i><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Example1:</span></i><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> Oriya </span><span lang=OR style='font-family:"Kalinga",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>ଠ</span><span lang=TE style='font-family:"Gautami",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>0B20) and Malayalam </span><span lang=ML style='font-family:"Kartika",serif;color:#26282A'>ഠ</span><span lang=KN style='font-family:"Tunga",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>0D20) <b>are</b> variant code points. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>They are consonants and they can form such </span><span lang=ML style='font-family:"Kartika",serif;color:#26282A'>ഠഠഠ </span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>(0B20 0B20 0B20) and </span><span lang=OR style='font-family:"Kalinga",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>ଠଠଠ</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> (0D20 0D20 0D20) cross-script variant labels</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=267 style='width:200.25pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='min-height:16.3pt'><td width=132 valign=top style='width:98.7pt;border:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>Oriya</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=135 valign=top style='width:101.55pt;border:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>Malayalam</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='min-height:16.3pt'><td width=132 valign=top style='width:98.7pt;border:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=OR style='font-family:"Kalinga",sans-serif'>ଠ</span><span lang=TE style='font-family:"Gautami",sans-serif'> (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>0B20)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=135 valign=top style='width:101.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-right:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=ML style='font-family:"Kartika",serif'>ഠ</span><span lang=KN style='font-family:"Tunga",sans-serif'> (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>0D20)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><i><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Example2</span></i><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>: Telugu </span><span lang=TE style='font-family:"Gautami",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>ం (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>0C02) and Malayalam </span><span lang=ML style='font-family:"Kartika",serif;color:#26282A'>ം (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>0D02) <b>are</b> <b>NOT</b> variant code points. As they are combining marks and cannot form variant labels. The same applies or Telugu </span><span lang=TE style='font-family:"Gautami",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>ః (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>0C03)and Malayalam </span><span lang=ML style='font-family:"Kartika",serif;color:#26282A'>ഃ (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>0D03)</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td width=131 valign=top style='width:98.6pt;border:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>Telugu </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=132 valign=top style='width:99.0pt;border:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>Malayalam</span><span lang=TH style='font-family:"Angsana New",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=131 valign=top style='width:98.6pt;border:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=TE style='font-family:"Gautami",sans-serif'>ం (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>0C02)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=132 valign=top style='width:99.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-right:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=ML style='font-family:"Kartika",serif'>ം (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>0D02)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=131 valign=top style='width:98.6pt;border:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=TE style='font-family:"Gautami",sans-serif'>ః (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>0C03)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=132 valign=top style='width:99.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-right:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=ML style='font-family:"Kartika",serif'>ഃ (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>0D03)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msolistparagraph style='margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#4472C4'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><b><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#4472C4'>IP Feedback</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#4472C4'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>With only a single consonant (or plus two combining marks) the overlap between scripts appears rather limited (case of <i>Example 1</i> above) . The IP would recommend dropping the variants. This feedback applies for Telugu, Kannada, Sinhala, Oriya, Malayalam. However the GP decision will affect all NBGP proposals. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>The IP suggest dropping following variant sets: </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=267 style='width:200.25pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='min-height:16.3pt'><td width=84 valign=top style='width:63.25pt;border:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>Telugu</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=87 valign=top style='width:65.1pt;border:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>Kannada</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=96 valign=top style='width:1.0in;border:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>Sinhala</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='min-height:16.3pt'><td width=84 valign=top style='width:63.25pt;border:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=TE style='font-family:"Gautami",sans-serif'>ం (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>0C02)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=87 valign=top style='width:65.1pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-right:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=KN style='font-family:"Tunga",sans-serif'>ಂ (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>0C82)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=96 valign=top style='width:1.0in;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-right:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=SI-LK style='font-family:"Nirmala UI",sans-serif'>ං</span><span lang=SI-LK style='font-family:"Iskoola Pota",sans-serif'> (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>0D82)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='min-height:16.3pt'><td width=84 valign=top style='width:63.25pt;border:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=TE style='font-family:"Gautami",sans-serif'>ః (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>0C03)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=87 valign=top style='width:65.1pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-right:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=KN style='font-family:"Tunga",sans-serif'>ಃ (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>0C83)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=96 valign=top style='width:1.0in;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-right:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=SI-LK style='font-family:"Nirmala UI",sans-serif'>ඃ</span><span lang=SI-LK style='font-family:"Iskoola Pota",sans-serif'> (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>0D83)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='min-height:16.3pt'><td width=84 valign=top style='width:63.25pt;border:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=TE style='font-family:"Gautami",sans-serif'>ర (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>0C30)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=87 valign=top style='width:65.1pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-right:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=KN style='font-family:"Tunga",sans-serif'>ರ (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>0CB0)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=96 valign=top style='width:1.0in;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-right:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=SI-LK style='font-family:"Nirmala UI",sans-serif'>ර</span><span lang=SI-LK style='font-family:"Iskoola Pota",sans-serif'> (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>0DBB)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=267 style='width:200.25pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='min-height:16.3pt'><td width=132 valign=top style='width:98.7pt;border:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>Oriya</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=135 valign=top style='width:101.55pt;border:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>Malayalam</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='min-height:16.3pt'><td width=132 valign=top style='width:98.7pt;border:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=OR style='font-family:"Kalinga",sans-serif'>ଠ</span><span lang=TE style='font-family:"Gautami",sans-serif'> (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>0B20)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=135 valign=top style='width:101.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;border-right:solid #BFBFBF 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;min-height:16.3pt'><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=ML style='font-family:"Kartika",serif'>ഠ</span><span lang=KN style='font-family:"Tunga",sans-serif'> (</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>0D20)</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msolistparagraph style='margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#4472C4'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><b><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#4472C4'>OPTIONS</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#4472C4'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><b><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>OPTION 1: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Do nothing. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><b><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>OPTION 2: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Drop the suggested variant sets. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Both options are valid. The final decision depends on NBGP. Whichever option selected, the proposals will be published for public comment period for 40 days. The community and experts will also have a chance to make a comment there. After the public comment period has ended. NBGP will consider all feedback and finalize proposals accordingly. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>We’d like to request the NBGP to consider this issue prior to the NBGP-Sinhala call this evening and let’s aim to finalize the option during the call. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Regards,</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Pitinan</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv5504404242msonormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><pre><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Neobrahmigp mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'><a href="mailto:Neobrahmigp@icann.org">Neobrahmigp@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/neobrahmigp" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/neobrahmigp</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><pre><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>Akshat Joshi<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#26282A'>C-DAC GIST</span><span style='color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><br>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>[ C-DAC is on Social-Media too. 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