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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p><span style='color:windowtext'>Dear Prof. Lehal and NBGP members,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:windowtext'>IP has suggested some minor edits to consider before final submission of the proposal, listed in their message below. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:windowtext'>As next steps, once these edits are incorporated, the proposal will be published at the <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/lgr-proposals-2015-12-01-en">proposals’ webpage</a> as the final version after public comment, and then IP will undertake its evaluation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='color:windowtext'>Regards,<br>Sarmad</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal>To: NeoBrahmi Generation Panel<br>From: Integration Panel<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The Gurmukhi LGR dated Feb 20 2019 appears to have been updated according to our recommendations from the previous round of feedback. In further review we noticed that some of the language in "Character Classes" could be improved in the XML. Some of the proposed changes also relate to better consistency across the RZ-LGR as a whole; the GP may want to make corresponding edits in the final proposal. We leave that decision up to the GP. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>- Integration Panel<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <b><u>DETAILED FEEDBACK</u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>DOCX </b>- None<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>All requested edits from previous rounds have been made<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>XML </b>- all minor and optional<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(1) The DOCx contains a "=pairin bindi" annotation for the Nukta 0A3C in the table in Section 5; this annotation is missing from the XML. (If there was a desire to fix that in the proposal, <u>the comment for U+0A3C in the XML would need to be changed </u>to:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>comment="GURMUKHI SIGN NUKTA = pairin bindi" .<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(2) the following passage in the <description> could be copy-edited as follows: <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <p>Tippi : Tippi is used to nasalize short vowels /ə/ and /I/ at all places, <br> as well as /U/ and /u/ after a consonant. That means, Tippi comes after <br> consonants without a vowel sign (representing the mātrā of /ə/ "mukta") <br> and after the mātrā of /I/ ( <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਿ</span> ) following vowel carriers and consonants, <br> such as <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਸੰ</span> and <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਸਿੰ</span>. The mātrās of /U/ ( <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ੁ</span>,) and /u/ ( <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ੂ</span> ) following a consonant <br> also take Tippi. In addition, Tippi is used in gemination for nasal consonants <br><span style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਙ</span>, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਞ</span>, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਨ</span> and <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਮ</span>. More details in Section 3.3.4.2 "The Tippi" of the [Proposal] </p><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The original wording is a bit tough to follow for anyone not yet familiar with Gurmukhi and even if it's decided to not update this in the proposal XML itself, it would be good to have someone from the GP review the above copy-edit, because we plan to use this language in the published LGR.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> (3) There are a few more instances where the / / enclose lists including punctuation and a conjunction (and). Those would be cleaner if the / / were placed only around the phonetic transcription to match usage in other LGRs.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Such as:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <p>Vowels: Punjabi has ten vowels (<span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਅ</span> /ə/, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਆ</span> /a/, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਇ</span> /I/, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਈ</span> /i/, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਉ</span> /U/, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਊ</span> /u/, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਏ</span> /e/, <br> <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਐ</span> /ɛ/, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਓ</span> /o/ and <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਔ</span> /ͻ/). Out of these, three (<span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਅ</span> /ə/, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਇ</span><span lang=PA> </span>/I/, and <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਉ</span> /U/) are short vowels<br> and seven (<span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਆ</span> /a/, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਈ</span> /i/, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਊ</span> /u/, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਏ</span> /e/, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਐ</span> /ɛ/, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਓ</span> /o/, and <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਔ</span> /ͻ/) are long vowels. <br> More details in Section 3.3.3 "Vowels" of the<br> [Proposal].</p><br> <br> <p>Bindi: Bindi represents a homo-organic nasal. Bindi is used with all <br> long vowels (<span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਆ</span>, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਈ</span>, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਊ</span>, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਏ</span>, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਐ</span>, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਓ</span>, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਔ</span> ) and the short vowel (<span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਉ</span>) and with the matras of long vowels ( <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਾ</span>, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ੀ</span>, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ੇ</span>, <br> <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ੈ</span>, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ੋ</span>, <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ੌ</span> ) except the matra ( <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ੂ</span>). More <br> details in Section 3.3.4.1, "The Bindi" of the [Proposal].</p><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(4) For the Halant we plan to use this revised passage:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><p>Halant: All consonants contain an implicit vowel (schwa). <br> A special sign is needed to denote that this implicit vowel is stripped off. <br> This sign is the Halant, encoded as U+094D ( <span lang=HI style='font-family:"Nirmala UI",sans-serif'>्</span> ) GURMUKHI SIGN VIRAMA. More details in Section 3.3.2, <br> "The Implicit Vowel Killer: Halant" of the [Proposal]. <br> </p><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> The GP may decide to update the XML or give the IP feedback on this edit.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(5) For the Addak, it may be worth mentioning that it cannot occur at the end of a label:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <p>Addak : Addak is used to mark the gemination of the following consonant. <br> In Punjabi, addak usually can follow mukta, aunkar ( <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ੁ</span> ) and sihari ( <span lang=PA style='font-family:"Raavi",sans-serif'>ਿ</span> ), and the <br> vowel signs of the short vowels /ə/, /u/ and /i/. It geminates the consonant which <br> follows it; therefore it cannot occur at the end of a label. More details in "3.3.4.3<br> The Addak" of the [Proposal].</p><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(6) Finally, in the statement:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> Gurmukhi <span style='color:windowtext'>is an alphasyllabary and the heart of the writing system is the akshar. <i>It is this unit, </i></span><i>which</i> is instinctively recognized by users of the script.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> the text shown here in italics could be edited to<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:windowtext'>Gurmukhi is an alphasyllabary and the heart of the writing system is the akshar. <i>This is the unit which </i></span>is instinctively recognized by users of the script.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='color:windowtext'> </span></i><span style='color:windowtext'>Some of out reviewers had difficulty with the original wording (changed wording in italics).</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div></div></div></body></html>